not sure. it seems as though you can use self defense in your home, but what about lethal force if the intriuder is not armed?rmorse;2492791;2492791 said:
Gun people! I need a shotgun...
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jcardona1;2492784; said:well being in CA, i think moving is the only option. too many liberals out here. things will only get worse, not better, for gun owners
Hopefully you are wrong, but...
On a bright note I just found a used but good condition SigP229 for sale with the .40sw and .357sig barrels for a good price and local for once! If he will take the $450 I offered I will scope it for sure!
Then I will need an underfolder AK and stripped lower (for ban purposes) and I will be set!
sounds like an awesome deal!!JD7.62;2492807;2492807 said:Hopefully you are wrong, but...
On a bright note I just found a used but good condition SigP229 for sale with the .40sw and .357sig barrels for a good price and local for once! If he will take the $450 I offered I will scope it for sure!
Then I will need an underfolder AK and stripped lower (for ban purposes) and I will be set!
on a sidenote, if the AWB were to be reinstated, i wonder what that would do in CA, since CA has their own versions of the AWB in place. I wonder if would be required to register my EBR as an AW??
rmorse;2492791; said:
That sucks man, MOVE!
Duty to retreat means you need to take a bullet to the back before you can do anything.
Ok not really but baisically you will have a hard time fighting in criminal and especially in civil court if you used deadly weapon in self defense because of that crappy little phrase. Prosecutors/Plantiffs could find a way to show that you didnt try to run away first.
The Castle Doctorine would protect you from that.
jcardona1;2492826; said:
If any new ban is identical to the '94 AWB then you will still be SOL. The CA ban is and was more stringent then the national ban. Since your weapon is already CA legal it shouldnt be effected. I REALLY doubt a national ban would be put into place as strict as the CA AWB. You would have ALOT of pissed off people.
Remember that most democrats outside of CA and NE are still gun nuts so we (the nation [like I said before you are SOL being CA]) still have hope.
rmorse;2491893; said:
im a little late responding.. but the gun should already be cocked before that ****er (intruder) would know what to make of it..
I would suggest that you get a hand gun. Shotguns don't give you much of a ammo capacity. Get a pistol with atleast a 15 round magazine. But thats just my opinion. 
DucatiDragster;2493102; said:I would suggest that you get a hand gun. Shotguns don't give you much of a ammo capacity. Get a pistol with atleast a 15 round magazine. But thats just my opinion.
other than the fact that a handgun round will go through multiple sheetrock walls endangering others. shotgun blasts will not go through near as many. I think my 7 rounds of buckshot plus a side saddle will do the trick bud...
Rmorse, guns are like aquariums - the size and type you get depends on how much you plan to send on them to begin with 
...and they're like fish - always hunger for food, lol. Personally, for home defense, I'd go with the FN SLP - comes in 12 Ga, holds 8 +1, has multiple MIL-STD 1913 rails on the receiver top and magazine tube so you can put an aftermarket optic sight (for a more refined target acquisition than just spray and pray), a tactical light (for bumps in the night), and even a laser if you wish on it.
...and they're like fish - always hunger for food, lol. Personally, for home defense, I'd go with the FN SLP - comes in 12 Ga, holds 8 +1, has multiple MIL-STD 1913 rails on the receiver top and magazine tube so you can put an aftermarket optic sight (for a more refined target acquisition than just spray and pray), a tactical light (for bumps in the night), and even a laser if you wish on it.