HAS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA LOST IT'S MIND
- Thread starter Tequila
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There is literally nothing in your post that is true. As someone who has been fishing in Lake Davis for the last 23 years I can assure that northern pike ARE savage killers. They ARE eating machines. They had decimated Lake Davis to the point of that no one wants to fish there anymore because, GASP, there was nothing to catch but pike. Since you are nowhere near this situation and have most likely never seen Lake Davis or fished there perhaps you should, you know, not spout off about something you clearly have no clue about. Have a great day!MultispeciesTamer;2645131; said:
true i dont live there but i live her in MI where we got the same things in our lakes bass, pike, bluegills, trout. Iam telling you there is no way in hell that these pike overran all the other fish. Y would no want to fish a lake full of pike, i would be fishing there 24/7. When life gives you pike, fishem they are great eating. Sounds like you need to do more research about pike.HarpoGarza;2647395; said:
zfoster22;2645182; said:
Of course they will have to poison the entire lake. So what do you expect, poison the pikes only??? how is that possible, you tell me.
Besides, there is nothing left in that lake but pikes pikes pikes.
MultispeciesTamer;2648408; said:
Not sure about your lakes, but in our lakes...its a whole different story. So you said there is no way those pikes can over ran our lakes, a 30" pike eats a 10lbs bass easy and simple.
Well, how easy did the silver carp/bighead carp over ran those rivers???
a 30 inch pike could eat about a 1-3 pound bass no where near a 10 pounder. and i dont know what you talking about them carp things we have none here in MI
Since reading comprehension is apparently out of your grasp I will say this one more time for your benefit: PIKE RUINED LAKE DAVIS. THEY ARE A VORACIOUS PREDATOR AND AN INVASIVE SPECIES. THEY EFFECTIVELY KILLED OFF THE TROUT AND BASS STOCKS IN THAT LAKE. THE FACT THAT YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.
pike would not kill all the bass stocks but they would ba able to eat alot of small trout, and the fisheries worrys about them eating stripers and salmon it would take a very large pike to eat any of these. If you ask me Pike made lake davis beter, but you killed them all and restocked it twice. Trout are better of in streams then in these dumb lakes anywaysHarpoGarza;2650152; said:
Hey! A guy who lives a thousand miles away thinks pike would make Lake Davis better! Hurray!
I'm obviously talking to a wall here so I'll just leave you this
and be done. Don't forget to fasten the chin strap on your helmet extra tight.
I'm obviously talking to a wall here so I'll just leave you this
and be done. Don't forget to fasten the chin strap on your helmet extra tight.
MultispeciesTamer;2649924; said:
oh i guess you don't know anything about the carp thing, but anyways back to the topic.
I guess you haven't seen pikes that literally tried to eat other pikes 3/4 of their size, and that's more than 10lbs. Of course they end up spitting the fish back out, but would that fish be a live after its been spit back out?
Our lakes/rivers environment is different from there. I guess in our water system, its just capable to make any fish turn out to be their true self when there's no icing to keep them cool. Over here, it still gets up to mid 60s or high 60s during the middle of the winter when its like 0 and below over there, and during summer its high 90s up to 105 or 110. Weather temperament can change the behavior of a certain species specifically, and im sure you should understand that also.
Researching about them has nothing to deal with figuring out how they act from certain location. But im sure an experience is something while looking up online is nothing.
But if your talking about pikes eating stripers and salmon, very capable in fact. Sure they will not be able to take on the 30"+ stripers, but im sure they will be able to take on the 5"-15" zone very simple. Plus the little guys are more populated as usual in the west coast, every 100 of them you will find a keeper.
As for salmon, smolts...smolts...smolts. And im sure due the aggressive behavior of these species, the salmon will not make it far up to their spawning ground after all the battle against the pikes. And this will cause the world 2nd most popular salmon fishery to collapse(which is happening right now even without the pikes). Imagine if we were to keep the pike longer and they escaped into the river system and out into the delta. Most of our species would be killed off besides large stripers and the infamous white sturgeon. After they have escape into the delta, there is absolutely no way but to poison the delta, and I bet it would be a waste of California money also to do the project. Since the delta is so huge and deep, it would not effect on a wide range enough just to put them down on the population. Not only that, someone will file a lawsuit against the state for doing so and killing off a lot of the species in the water(including and infamous white sturgeon, which the law is 3 per yr for bagging these guys).
Besides, your talking about the trout being in the streams. We don't have streams here, most of our streams is in the foothill into the sierras which is terribly far for most fisherman. More likely terribly far for 85% of the fisherman in California.
That's not the only case, the other case is that if these non native rainbows are being bred into the wild browns and cutthroats, or maybe even the rare true wild rainbow now a days. The stream system will be ruined in matter of times.
If they are release into the river, all the fish will eat it such as stripers, sturgeons, catfish. So there's really no point of stocking them into rivers either when we have different species of fish runs all year long. It would be a waste of time to stock the trout into rivers and make no profit. So in this case, rather stock into lakes where people will come pay to fish so the state can make some profit right??? you tell me about it.
