How do you think of this tank stock?

[duanes]

Vieja synspillum (actually melanurum), get too big for one in a 75 with no other fish, this is another that needs a 6 ft tank
In fact there is not any Vieja species that can use a 75 except as a temporary grow out tank.
I have kept 7 of 8 of the Vieja species, and would not subject even one of them as adults in such a small tank.


V breidhori left, V bifasciatta middle, young melanura right

 

[Backfromthedead]

Okay, so the red wolf is out of the question

75 gallons
Fx6 canister

How is this revised list?
Pinktail chalceus
Hujeta gar*
Red tailed barracuda*
Vieja synspilum
Ropefish
Raphael cat
Goldfish

Lowest temperature will be 22 degrees C, only on cold winter days, and about 24 in the summer.

*both can live with similar sized mid and bottom dwellers
All species in the list can live in 22c water

I would especially like some more feedback from those who have kept pink tailed chalceus, Viejas, red tail barracuda or hujeta gar.
I'm specifically looking for odd fish that can live in subtropical water, bonus points if it looks prehistoric, so suggestions would be appreciated as well.

The first three you mentioned are all in the same boat. They are cool fish but will not grow and live to their full potential in a 75. They are all quick, skittish fish that stress easily when confined in a smaller tank.

The vieja is just another big territorial cichlid. Will outgrow the tank and most likely murder the other fish listed.

You can absolutely keep a raphael cat with your goldfish in the 75. Ive never kept ropefish but i think that would work too.

 

[Friller2009]

Okay, so the red wolf is out of the question

75 gallons
Fx6 canister

How is this revised list?
Pinktail chalceus
Hujeta gar*
Red tailed barracuda*
Vieja synspilum
Ropefish
Raphael cat
Goldfish

Lowest temperature will be 22 degrees C, only on cold winter days, and about 24 in the summer.

*both can live with similar sized mid and bottom dwellers
All species in the list can live in 22c water

I would especially like some more feedback from those who have kept pink tailed chalceus, Viejas, red tail barracuda or hujeta gar.
I'm specifically looking for odd fish that can live in subtropical water, bonus points if it looks prehistoric, so suggestions would be appreciated as well.

One of my main points that I stressed was that chalceus and Red tail barracuda are skittish as hell. The lights get turned on and they are not expecting it, into the wall they go.
Don't have too much knowledge on Hujeta gar, but I do believe they are hard to get off livefoods. ( tlindsey knows stuff about them?)
As stated by Duanes, The vieja will get to big, and can and will beat the crap out of every fish in the tank.
The ropefish and Raphael are gonna struggle to get food. The goldfish will devour it all.
Depending on the species the Raphael will get over a foot.

 

[latapy10]

This is an aquarium parody or maybe he wants to see a dead goldfish...

 

[latapy10]

The first three you mentioned are all in the same boat. They are cool fish but will not grow and live to their full potential in a 75. They are all quick, skittish fish that stress easily when confined in a smaller tank.

The vieja is just another big territorial cichlid. Will outgrow the tank and most likely murder the other fish listed.

You can absolutely keep a raphael cat with your goldfish in the 75. Ive never kept ropefish but i think that would work too.

Even the ropefish can bully and bite the fins of that poor goldfish..

 

[SalviniCichlidFan]

Okay, so the red wolf is out of the question

75 gallons
Fx6 canister

How is this revised list?
Pinktail chalceus
Hujeta gar*
Red tailed barracuda*
Vieja synspilum
Ropefish
Raphael cat
Goldfish

Lowest temperature will be 22 degrees C, only on cold winter days, and about 24 in the summer.

*both can live with similar sized mid and bottom dwellers
All species in the list can live in 22c water

I would especially like some more feedback from those who have kept pink tailed chalceus, Viejas, red tail barracuda or hujeta gar.
I'm specifically looking for odd fish that can live in subtropical water, bonus points if it looks prehistoric, so suggestions would be appreciated as well.

I think one aspect other ppl forgot to mention was how similar the Pinktail chalices and the red tailed barracuda look in terms of appearance. Being the more aggressive/deadly fish, I'd expect the barracuda to attack the pintail chalices. Personally, I'd keep the pinktail and remove the barracuda.

 

[Hybridfish7]

I completely misunderstood this...thought there were 3 separate 75g tanks involved.

Yes this tank idea is a fantasy. Since you have the ranchu already i would just use the 75g for it, or just keep it in the 36g and use the 75 for a tomocichla tank. I wouldnt try to put any cichlids with the goldfish though.

I don't think this guy is going to be able to keep, let alone find asfraci. Last time they were available in the U.S, they were $450 ea, and it was the first time they've been in the country in decades.

 

[Backfromthedead]

I don't think this guy is going to be able to keep, let alone find asfraci. Last time they were available in the U.S, they were $450 ea, and it was the first time they've been in the country in decades.

I thought that right after i posted. Tomocichla are rare indeed.

 

[Friller2009]

I don't think this guy is going to be able to keep, let alone find asfraci. Last time they were available in the U.S, they were $450 ea, and it was the first time they've been in the country in decades.

The OP may not be from America, always remember how different countries view things and the culture of keeping fish. Look at asia for example

I think one aspect other ppl forgot to mention was how similar the Pinktail chalices and the red tailed barracuda look in terms of appearance. Being the more aggressive/deadly fish, I'd expect the barracuda to attack the pintail chalices. Personally, I'd keep the pinktail and remove the barracuda.

Aggression between the two is not the issue. People tend to doubt how big pink tails get, they'll get larger than the barracuda, and probably stress it out. They will bash into the sides of the wall in a tank that small./

 

[tlindsey]

believe they are hard to get off livefoods

Yes this is what I've heard but with patience can learn to except pellets and other non living foods.
We also have to focus on how will the fish on the list get the proper diet. The Goldfish should definitely be out as everyone has stated.