How do you think of this tank stock?

[Caveden]

Man, research on fish is just so hard. Its way different than getting information about Hitler or dogs. Just as I feared, all those months of hard work accumulating bullcrap information on the internet got flushed down as soon as I talked to people who see through that bullcrap. There's just so much conflicting information about fish on the internet. I'm not sad because I found out almost everything about fish on the internet is bs, because I actually already knew that. I knew realistically, those feeding time videos on YouTube featuring a tiny glass box containing an arowana, oscar, Jaguar, red tailed catfish, knife fish, turtles, stingrays, an arapaima and a goddamn partridge in a pear tree would be a disaster in the long run. But it just looked so damn cool, and there was just an itching thought in my head that was like "maybe he had a really good filter" or "maybe there's a secret method to raise fish so they won't be aggressive" and especially "maybe those fish aren't actually aggressive in the first place, and those stories of oscars ripping up their tankmates were just popular LIES that everyone regurgitates over and over like it's gospel, despite never having owned one"
I mean, c'mon, how do you know what's right or wrong when you cant trust any of your sources? Okay, so i still knew deep down I was just trying to make myself believe what I wanted to be true so I can justify having an awesome tiny glass box with monster fish just like those people on YouTube and not feel like an ass. I guess today my attempts to convince myself was actually starting to work, because it got to a point i was confident enough to tell you guys what I wanted to do. Damn, I got snapped back into reality fast. On top of that you guys debunked other things that i genuinely believed.
I'm not sad that what I knew was bullcrap, turned out to be...well, bullcrap. I'm also not sad that I wrong on the things I actually thought was true.
What I'm sad about is that what I've feared has been confirmed: to get any good information on fish I'll have to talk to people who've had experience raising these fish, which means I have to talk to you smug ****s who get off on correcting others.
Goddamn, I wish fish research was as easy as researching Hitler.

The time I kept a motoro stingray, Florida gar, silver arowana and 2 bichirs in a 55 gallon. Ofc, the stingray died, had to rehome the silver arowana and buy a new 6ft aquarium for the gar and bichirs. You were in the same position as me last time ( 3 years ago ), wanting to keep all the cool ass fish but with little space. Everyone here gives good advice, just a suggestion, why not just rehome your ranchu instead? Wouldnt that solve many of the problems you’re facing currently?

 

[TyKornblue]

The time I kept a motoro stingray, Florida gar, silver arowana and 2 bichirs in a 55 gallon. Ofc, the stingray died, had to rehome the silver arowana and buy a new 6ft aquarium for the gar and bichirs. You were in the same position as me last time ( 3 years ago ), wanting to keep all the cool ass fish but with little space. Everyone here gives good advice, just a suggestion, why not just rehome your ranchu instead? Wouldnt that solve many of the problems you’re facing currently?

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i agree, try rehoming it for sure if you want some kind of awesome prehistoric type fish. maybe get a 55 gallon just for him or something if you want it that badly. for the fish you want, i would suggest you get a larger tank, money doesn’t seem to be an issue judging by the fish you listed…space might be though. if you can get a 125 gallon, you could do some rocket gar and bichirs, which is a very cool combo imo, and seems like it would match your taste in fish well.

 

[duanes]

The water's pretty hard, with a ph of 7.6, because it's sourced from Lake Michigan

Originally being from WI I also had Lake Michigan as a source for many decades.
And I found the best species to keep with that water are rift lake Africans, and Central Americans.
Trying to keep soft water S Americans or most any soft water species was an exercise in futility for me.
And the type species found in my area at Milwaukee Aquarium society and Chicago auctions was very telling of the type fish that are successfully raised in that water.
Rift Lake Africans were always available and healthy there, and many will be acceptable in your size tank.
Central Americans also do well, but a 75 is very limiting as to what species will fit.
All of the species below did well in similar size tanks, in L Michigan sourced water.

 

[TheTerminutter]

i agree, try rehoming it for sure if you want some kind of awesome prehistoric type fish. maybe get a 55 gallon just for him or something if you want it that badly. for the fish you want, i would suggest you get a larger tank, money doesn’t seem to be an issue judging by the fish you listed…space might be though. if you can get a 125 gallon, you could do some rocket gar and bichirs, which is a very cool combo imo, and seems like it would match your taste in fish well.

Money isn't an issue, but I am living with my parents and my dad doesn't want more fish tanks in the house.
I am also very attached to my goldfish

I will never let murderous fish like oscars near him. Even if I introduce fish that's known to get along with peaceful bottom dwellers, Im willing to immediately return it if it bullies my goldfish.

 

[TheTerminutter]

Originally being from WI I also had Lake Michigan as a source for many decades.
And I found the best species to keep with that water are rift lake Africans, and Central Americans.
Trying to keep soft water S Americans or most any soft water species was an exercise in futility for me.
And the type species found in my area at Milwaukee Aquarium society and Chicago auctions was very telling of the type fish that are successfully raised in that water.
Rift Lake Africans were always available and healthy there, and many will be acceptable in your size tank.
Central Americans also do well, but a 75 is very limiting as to what species will fit.
All of the species below did well in similar size tanks, in L Michigan sourced water.
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I've never seen a grey cichlid with a teal tummy before. What is it called?

 

[Deadeye]

Money isn't an issue, but I am living with my parents and my dad doesn't want more fish tanks in the house.
I am also very attached to my goldfish
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I will never let murderous fish like oscars near him. Even if I introduce fish that's known to get along with peaceful bottom dwellers, Im willing to immediately return it if it bullies my goldfish.

Fwiw, oscars are far less murderous than any of the fish mentioned in the original posts.

I've never seen a grey cichlid with a teal tummy before. What is it called?

That appears to be a Honduran Red Point cichlid, a smaller, more peaceful cousin to the convict. I personally wouldn’t keep one with a goldfish, but it won’t outright kill one like some of the predatory characins would.

 

[duanes]

I've never seen a grey cichlid with a teal tummy before. What is it called?

Do you mean the middle pic?
If so, that's Amatitlania sp. Honduran Red Point.

 

[Jexnell]

I would not put any of the top dwellers you mentioned in any tank short of a 6 footer. These fish are made for speed pure and simple. I raised a Pink Tail from 2in to around 8in. It could end for end the tank with just one switch of its body. Here he is pacing around a 6ft 125.

 

[Backfromthedead]

I would not put any of the top dwellers you mentioned in any tank short of a 6 footer. These fish are made for speed pure and simple. I raised a Pink Tail from 2in to around 8in. It could end for end the tank with just one switch of its body. Here he is pacing around a 6ft 125.

I was hoping you would bring out that video. Big ol PTC there.

 

[TheTerminutter]

Okay. I'm gonna get the striped raphael cat to start. That one seems the safest. If that works out fantastically to the end of its growth, only then I'll consider adding something more frisky.