Hunter nabs largest gator in state history

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Oscarum monstruoso;4599506; said:
Do you really think nature needs gung-ho animal killing humans to regulate animal populations?

If deer or other animal populations are out of control it is because of human interference, the argument that hunters help nature is completely false.


You answered your own question. With the development of roads, housing communities, ect we have erased the predators for many of these creatures OR made life easier for some of them to breed like crocs who now have canals and less vegetation to go through to find others...

It was brought up about deer in PA. Sure you could let them starve but there is a severe risk to the human population to allow them to do so. They would search for food in the area and car accidents would go up. A perfect case in point is Valley Forge park in PA where finally they are alllowing limited thinning of the herds. The past few years in the area animal strikes and vehicle accidents have sky rocketed. Lime disease is on an incredible rise and crops are being destroyed on local farms as they reach out and eat that since the normal land will not support them.

Yes it can be sad when a beast like this croc is killed or when a beautiful 10 point buck BUT they have their reasons. You could argue that this croc was in an uninhabited area BUT I could counter that his breeding and offspring stretch out to claim their own territory and they encroach on human inhabited lands. Killing the giant beast could and probably will create a power struggle in that area for a while as a new head male vies for control. That time off will aid in the population stemming from there. It is all a circle.
 
Oscarum monstruoso;4599676; said:
hunters just use the population argument as an excuse, their motivation is hunting and killing, not population control.

Lol! All you hunters and fishermen are killers! No gator meat for you! Seriously, alligator is one of the finest tasting entrées that I have ever tasted.
 
Oscarum monstruoso;4599506; said:
Do you really think nature needs gung-ho animal killing humans to regulate animal populations?


How are we supposed to regulate them?


Oscarum monstruoso;4599506; said:
If deer or other animal populations are out of control it is because of human interference, the argument that hunters help nature is completely false.

Lol! Think about what you just said! "Animal populations are out of control because of human interference." How do you suppose we control something we can't interfere with? Madness I tell ya!
 
Oscarum monstruoso;4599506; said:
Do you really think nature needs gung-ho animal killing humans to regulate animal populations?

If deer or other animal populations are out of control it is because of human interference, the argument that hunters help nature is completely false.
yeah. u dont understand do u? u live in a coushy little house and go to ur store in the middle of ur huge city. Ban hunting for awhile. U have no grasp on the outcome. U dont. Ur personal opinion is getting the in way of cold hard facts. Ur head is in the sand on this, and u need to remove it.

Yeah, since we are building homes, FARMING(vegatarian or not, u eat these) and such we need to control the population. And its not false that we help. Ever heard of cronic wasting diesese? google it. Then come back to me.

Ur attitude of all of us hunters as gung-ho animal killers is ignorant and offensive to say the least. I come from a long line of hunters and OWE my LIFE to hunting. Its how I ate.

And pop control. Lets try to put a simple example for ya. Where I live, hunting is prevelant. Right now drive my road and find a dead deer. THere is plenty of deer but atm their isnt one dead one on the road. GO to where I work, where hunting is less prevelant(still exists but the exact area im referencing thier isnt a ton of hunters). Last I counted thier was 8 dead deer on the road side.
 
Z Trip;4598069; said:
Why do people always kill the largest of animals? "oh look, a record breaker, I'm going to be a man and kill it"... I would love to blank there blanks with my blank.






I agree totally. If I was ever fortunate enough to catch a world record fish, I would take a picture of the once in a lifetime catch and turn it loose. To me, nothing is more rewarding to watch such an animal return to its habitat unharmed. In fact, in Florida I caught what very well have been a record Gafftopsail Catfish, but rather than killing it so that some guy somewhere can put my name in print, I released it and watched it swim away.


Lep, how the hell is it necessary??
 
I think both Lep and I have said why hunting is necessary in a lot of regions. Us humans have removed natures checks and balances in many instances and thus our guns can do what the wolves and such for other predators should have done if we did not eradicate or displace them...

Speaking for myself I am much happier to have guys with guns a few weeks of the year walking around the woods around me then worrying about a wolf or other predator being outside to attack myself of wife. Having those predators woudl be the balance and us humans have decided to not live with it. Nor are most of us comfortable with the devastation to our property that not hunting the prey animals woudl do...
 
methos75;4599692; said:
I wouldn't say that their motivation is just hunting and killing, many do depend on Gator hunting as part of their yearly paycheck and some just harvest a few a year for food. I am not going to lie, I love reptiles, but I am Cajun and grew up eating both Gators and Turtles and still do and when I am home I go out with my Dad who is still very much into living of the land and trap them for food. Personally hunting them is what lead me too care for Reptiles and their survival, you gain a new appreciation for them when your out in the middle of no where and see how they live and its a part of my life I don't want to disappear and want to share with my daughter, so I care very much that they survive in the wild so I can do that.

In can appreciate your point and I dont really disagree. Im no peta nutjob, I just dislike sport hunters who hunt for pleasure and make up bogus lofty excuses for sport killing. I have no issue with people eating animals, I happen to think gator is some of the best meat Ive eaten. Heck I might grab a gator burger down on the bayou today now that Im thinking about it.
 
I can understand the venom towards trophy hunters, I think those who just hunt a few times a year to fill a freezer though are ok.
 
Most hunters take the meat home to eat. Well most if not all hunters I know do that. They dont just shot the animal and leave the carcass to rot.

And yes if hunting doesnt take place in the remote areas the animals will move to the not so remote area looking for food and shelter. There for endangering people and pets
 
xrayjeeper83;4600060; said:
Most hunters take the meat home to eat. Well most if not all hunters I know do that. They dont just shot the animal and leave the carcass to rot.

And yes if hunting doesnt take place in the remote areas the animals will move to the not so remote area looking for food and shelter. There for endangering people and pets
its highly illegal to leave any meat in most places. in fact i know someone who took a moose, took 80% of the meat, and stupidly left the rest. he was tracked down and served a huge fine.

now ill admit, certain animals i do leave. Groundhogs, crows and the sort. I usually push the groundhogs back into thier hole and push alittle dirt on them.

bottom, ur 14 yo city raised mind apparently cant understand. Im sorry, but Iv already posted plenty of reasons why hunting is neccesary. Im not gonna keep beating a dead horse. It was a beautiful animal and will prob taste great. And when i see that huge buck, or even a nice fat doe, even if they are piebald, albino, luesic, unicorn(they exist in white tails, a single or even third horn grows between the eyes) or even melanistic, im gonna squeeze the trigger. Im then gonna enjoy all my meat(roasts, back straps and the rest). yum deer....

I want a deer burger now:drool:
 
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