Hybrid Catfish Discussion thread.

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Would like to add to the discussion here that INTRACYTOPLASMIC SPERM INJECTION(injecting egg with sperm) in teleost fishes is not the best method for making hybrids or for reproduction of fish period. This method is only possible when the sperm is injected directly into the micropyle(an opening for entry by sperm on the cell wall of the egg). When this is accomplished the fertilization rate is less than 30%, and survival rate of those fertilized eggs is only about 15%, of that 15% only 2% will mature normally and develop past the embryonic stage. This method therefore is almost never used when hybridizing teleost fish species. It is most useful in mammalian species, and was first used on hamsters before being used on chimps and eventually refined into what is used in humans as invitro fertilization. I hope this is helpful to all those that always wondered how hybrids are produced. The method for making hybrids is as simple as those used by fish farmers. The eggs and sperm are stripped and combined in a controlled environment that is most conducive to fertilization. The rate of fertilization varies depending on which two species you are combining. As you can imagine the closer related the two species are the higher the rate of fertilization will be.
 
Just found some crazy info on N.A. catfish hybrids! More to come tomorrow. I need to organize first. Some of you may flip lol. turns out there has been 30 N.A. hybrids produced alone. Considering we have one of the lowest species counts for catfish in the world that's impressive. Let's just say pretty much all catfish that get more than 16" in N.A. were hybridized with each other.
 
Just found some crazy info on N.A. catfish hybrids! More to come tomorrow. I need to organize first. Some of you may flip lol. turns out there has been 30 N.A. hybrids produced alone. Considering we have one of the lowest species counts for catfish in the world that's impressive. Let's just say pretty much all catfish that get more than 16" in N.A. were hybridized with each other.

That is so awesome.....it would be really cool to see a Albino Channel/ Albino Flathead catfish hybrid.
 
Looks like the Leiarius x phractocephalus hybrid I use to have. I'm going to say no on it being a perruno hybrid. very difficult to come by a perruno. my friend Dr. John Lundberg has been examining and studying amazon catfish for many decades and has only observed 2 specimens to date. He actually sent me some pics of them and their skulls compared to L. marmoratus.
 
lol, I think I am on hybrid overload after today. Have tons of pics to upload in here. Even found out that there are inter species hybrids that are actually infertile. Basically they hybridize two subspecies of the same species and it's almost like creating a hybrid of two different species. Also found out that in close relatives many of the hybrids are actually fertile in the first generation. These would be hybrids of species in the same genus. The offspring they produce when mixed again are inferior to the first generational hybrids. when conditions are right hybrids have hybrid vigor allowing them to grow at very increased rates. something in their genes also allows them to be highly resistant to common illnesses associated with aquarium and aquaculture fish.
 
That is so awesome.....it would be really cool to see a Albino Channel/ Albino Flathead catfish hybrid.

Apparently almost all attempts at hybridizing flathead catfish were a failure. They were unable to use eggs from flathead catfish to produce hybrids but the sperm was used to make some flathead x bullhead hybrids. I'm not even sure if you hybridize two albino species if it will come out albino. Makes sense that it would, but maybe not.
 
Looks like the Leiarius x phractocephalus hybrid I use to have. I'm going to say no on it being a perruno hybrid. very difficult to come by a perruno. my friend Dr. John Lundberg has been examining and studying amazon catfish for many decades and has only observed 2 specimens to date. He actually sent me some pics of them and their skulls compared to L. marmoratus.

Yeah that's what I told the guy lol but wanted to check with you. How big do those guys get? Because if they stay 3 feet or smaller that's pretty cool.


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Apparently almost all attempts at hybridizing flathead catfish were a failure. They were unable to use eggs from flathead catfish to produce hybrids but the sperm was used to make some flathead x bullhead hybrids. I'm not even sure if you hybridize two albino species if it will come out albino. Makes sense that it would, but maybe not.

Wow, what kind of Bullhead?
 
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