I HATE college

[Pharaoh]

Millionaire High School Dropouts

http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/108754/millionaire-high-school-dropouts?mod=career-work

Out of how many total people dropped out of high school? Where are the rest of the numbers? You should compare these numbers to the amount of college graduates that now make millions of dollars. I bet you anything, that number is higher. These comments can give the wrong idea to those that do not know better.


I will never tell you that it is impossible to do what you want and be successful without going to college. To say so would be very far from the truth. I will tell you, that I have worked in both worlds, owning/operating a business and working in a corporate environment. There are ups and downs to each of them.

Working for yourself:
This is practically a 24hr a day job. You are a slave to the business that you would like to operate. Keep in mind, education or not, you had better know what you are doing. It is not a simple task to achieve. Those with high levels of perseverance, can and will make it happen. For some, this is way out of their league.

Working for the man:
This is a job that can be just as much of a pain as working for yourself at times. The added bonus with this is that you can walk away from your job and leave it there. I go to work, do my job and then go home and do what I want to do when I get there.

Either or these options give you the ability to make good money. There are ups and downs to doing both. It is up to the individual to make the decision for themselves.

For those that complain about their "corporate" job about how it is bad and they should follow the sheeple; You must have been in the wrong job. If you hated your job that much, you should look for something else. Starting your own business is not the only option. I have been in numerous positions within my current company and in others. There were some I liked, and some I didn't. Having my experience and degrees has allowed me to move around and find the job that suits my needs.

Myself, I have absolutely no interest in starting my own business. At least, in the near future. I would rather find a job that I like, put in my hours and go home. Sole proprietorships are not always what they are made out to be. Living paycheck to paycheck is not my idea of a great time. It is far too stressful for me.

 

[Egon]

^^^ Well said!

 

[thorpbrian]

If you don't like college you aren't doing it right....

 

[packer43064]

I stopped for awhile.I feel elated.

Thanks everyone for your help, I appreciate all answers.

 

[Knowdafish]

Out of how many total people dropped out of high school? Where are the rest of the numbers? You should compare these numbers to the amount of college graduates that now make millions of dollars. I bet you anything, that number is higher. These comments can give the wrong idea to those that do not know better.


I will never tell you that it is impossible to do what you want and be successful without going to college. To say so would be very far from the truth. I will tell you, that I have worked in both worlds, owning/operating a business and working in a corporate environment. There are ups and downs to each of them.

Working for yourself:
This is practically a 24hr a day job. You are a slave to the business that you would like to operate. Keep in mind, education or not, you had better know what you are doing. It is not a simple task to achieve. Those with high levels of perseverance, can and will make it happen. For some, this is way out of their league.

Working for the man:
This is a job that can be just as much of a pain as working for yourself at times. The added bonus with this is that you can walk away from your job and leave it there. I go to work, do my job and then go home and do what I want to do when I get there.

Either or these options give you the ability to make good money. There are ups and downs to doing both. It is up to the individual to make the decision for themselves.

For those that complain about their "corporate" job about how it is bad and they should follow the sheeple; You must have been in the wrong job. If you hated your job that much, you should look for something else. Starting your own business is not the only option. I have been in numerous positions within my current company and in others. There were some I liked, and some I didn't. Having my experience and degrees has allowed me to move around and find the job that suits my needs.

Myself, I have absolutely no interest in starting my own business. At least, in the near future. I would rather find a job that I like, put in my hours and go home. Sole proprietorships are not always what they are made out to be. Living paycheck to paycheck is not my idea of a great time. It is far too stressful for me.

But that is EXACTLY what you are doing when you have a job!

And having a job SEVERELY limits your potential. You will NEVER know what you can truely achieve monetarily or freedom wise while working a "job".

 

[Angler]

College was a blast. I miss it.

 

[Pharaoh]

But that is EXACTLY what you are doing when you have a job!

And having a job SEVERELY limits your potential. You will NEVER know what you can truely achieve monetarily or freedom wise while working a "job".

What potential does it limit? You potential to provide for your family, for others, for hobbies, for personal recreation? A job is a job, whether you work for yourself or you work for a company. The only real difference is who you report to, yourself or a manager. Who says that entrepreneurs do not live paycheck to paycheck? To an extent, everyone lives paycheck to paycheck at some time or another.

If your potential is being limited, it is not because of your job, it is because you are allowing your potential to be limited. In some aspects, not having to manage a business 24hrs a day could almost be a blessing. When I leave work, I leave it there. It does not enter my home life. When I get home, I do what I want to do and accomplish the personal goals that I choose to accomplish.

Now, we could sit around all day and get into Plato and Aristotle mode and discuss the intricacies of life. IMO, that is not what this is about. The question is a personal choice made by the OP. Should he or should he not continue/go to college. Realistically, the odds are in your favor if you do go. Stats will show that on average a personal with a college degree will make more money in their lifetime than a person without a degree. It is up to each person to choose how they want to move through life.

 

[chefjamesscott]

Ok I have to chirp back in.

As a person who lost 1/4 million on my first venture, took 3 years off and then got back in the game, I have most certainly not done it for the money. If I was only at this for the money I would have long ago taken my hand of this plough!!!!!!!!

Truly what they say about time constraints is true. I figured it out one day, that at times I make less than $1/hour. Other times I actually pay to work lol.

I concour with pharoh in the above post and firmly state that being a business owner is not in the cards for all people. If anyone and I mean anyone tells you it's a bed of roses, they neglect to tell you of the thorns. Or they are selling illegal substances whilst not using them and making grosss and I mean gross amounts of money destroying peoples lives.

The above all being said there are definitely payouts for being in business. Partially I am able to write off many expenditures and have my business pay for what others must simply accept as cost of living. I have the freedom to do many things that a job would very much limit. I am also pushed to the very limits of creativity and vigor to see things move forward and complacency is not an available speed of operation.

I strongly encourage those who have a passion and dream to accomplish something by being in business, but, that they should make sure they have weighed the cost before they begin to attempt to pay it. Are they willing to put it all on the table and let the chips falls, ever ready to ante up more than what was brought to the table so as to see the vision to completion.

I am not saying that there is not financial booty to be gained I am simply saying that fast success equates to short success. A flash in the pan is nice and bright, but, after it's burned it's very short course it is gone.

Perhaps, my views on this are very much directed by my first choice of field to venture into RESTAURANTS of this I am pretty much assured. Though I have a line of clothing from my fashion days on the back burner, a line of seasonings-dressings-breadings etc.., a catchy buzz phrase line of t-shirts, a exotic fish company and a few other businesses in mind that would make me much more money much faster. I have chosen to do a restaurant and though failure was a first outcome, here I am 13 years later after my first day in the batters box beginning to obtain hard fought success.

If one's life is simply about comfortable living and affording the desires you wish to possess then so be it! I have never derided anyone for taking the road of employee in anothers workforce. Where would we be if everyone tried to be in business for themselves-WHAT A MESS THAT WOULD BE!!!!!

Yet at the same time it has been so very funny and still is (to have those who have yet to even do me the courtesy of sharing a cup of joe or a beer to get the inside details) to have people (who though well meaning) share what they think based on what they see. Oh how very silly to hear what one person pronounces when they put their mouth in motion before they put their brain in gear!!!!!

In the end of it, you must make sure it is not just hormonal angst attacking you as you progress from high school into adult life that gives you a failed view of school. Perhaps this is the case and you simply need to step back take a year and then go. Perhaps, college or university is not for you but rather the trades is better. Or maybe perhaps indeed you are meant to go into business for yourself! If this is the case then strike out and pave your road or find someone with whom you can both pave the same road.

BUT PLEASE DO NOT BECOME SOMEONE WHO DWELLS IN THE LAND OF WISH I HAD, SHOULDA COULDA BUT DID NOT!!!!

By that I mean get a vision for what you are going to do and go for it! Do not get stuck in the land of tomorrow and then suddenly it's 5/10/20 years later and you realize that you have been in the planning stages and now can not get off the runway. I have lost count of the people who are doing the same things they were doing in high school living in the land of glory days not realizing that they are just existing not truly living.

Whether that means higher learning, trade school or business do not stagnate get out there and get going!!!!

 

[chefjamesscott]

But that is EXACTLY what you are doing when you have a job!

And having a job SEVERELY limits your potential. You will NEVER know what you can truely achieve monetarily or freedom wise while working a "job".

A ? for you friend.

If you are in business, how much of your being in business came from being set up by your parents?

I am only asking this because that is a thing that I have always found interesting. The correlation between the founder of the business versus those that get handed the reins from the founder.

I ask this of you to open up another part of the discussion of this thread which I needed to ask another business person who got handed up by another business person.

 

[Knowdafish]

A ? for you friend.

If you are in business, how much of your being in business came from being set up by your parents?

I am only asking this because that is a thing that I have always found interesting. The correlation between the founder of the business versus those that get handed the reins from the founder.

I ask this of you to open up another part of the discussion of this thread which I needed to ask another business person who got handed up by another business person.

I was not given a single dime by my parents except what I earned by working for them for 8 years full time and 8 years of part time work. I learned a lot, and put my experience to work. What I learned the most was how a successful business operates and what it takes to have and run one.....which in my opinion is intelligence, balls, thinking outside the box, and being willing to do what the masses aren't willing to do, which is stick with it no matter what it takes!

My parents retired, sold the property the business was on, and left me to find my own means of an income. I think that is the way it should be. Work for what you have, not just hope it falls into your lap, but maybe that's just me! No hand me downs here!

I made my $ in an entirely different business. The key to making $ is working smart and not hard. There are a lot of people who work very hard and put in a lot of hours that don't make a lot of money. The smart ones make the most of their time.

My best friend basically did the same thing. He watched his parents work a number of businesses and do very well. He decided at an early age to own his own business and did so. He also started with no money at all from his parents. He has a brother who is also very successful in business too. Maybe it runs in the family? A business aptitude is inherited? I know a business attitude, at least in my family, and my friends family is a learned trait. My brother and my sister have also owned successful businesses.

I still say, if a person has what it takes, that owning ones own business is the way to go. It was what America was founded on, and a lot of immigrants that comes to America, don't come here to get a job, but to fulfill their ultimate dream of owning their own business!

College is great, but don't think that just because you have a college degree it is the be all and end all of being all one can be in the business world. I will never understand why someone will let someone else decide how much money they are worth, which is exactly what an employer does! I would much rather decide my own worth by going after it!!

My 3-1/2 cents worth.........