ID my Texan

[Natural_Born_Killer]

Not to add more confusion, but what should you be looking at when trying to distinguish between the various Texans then?

 

[Natural_Born_Killer]

OP -

either way you have a very nice looking fish on your hands!

 

[Sab_Fan]

to the OP: aren't you glad you asked

 

[Acestro]

How many people posting in this thread have had articles about certain "texas" cichlids (carpintis) published in THF? Oh yeah, Acestro.

oh great, now the pressure's on!

I have yet to find the perfect way to distinguish these species. Juan Miguel has ducked the most direct questions and some folks think it may just be a big gradient where you almost could call ALL of these subspecies.

Anyone care to discuss species concepts?

 

[VRWC]

It honestly looks like a carpintis/cyano hybrid to me.

 

[Modest_Man]

Species by definition are a man made construct, there's always going to be issues with "defining" species and clashing between the splitters and the lumpers.

To the original poster, call the fish whatever you want. Unless you buy a fish with a collection locale attached to the name, you're never going to be 100% sure what your fish is, or isn't. It could very well be a mix of fish from several different locales.

And Tom, I just find it really funny how there are so many internet experts who are so adamant that they know everything about a subject when you're actually doing academics on fish in this family and being by far the most modest. Keep up the good work.

 

[jcardona1]

Species by definition are a man made construct, there's always going to be issues with "defining" species and clashing between the splitters and the lumpers.

To the original poster, call the fish whatever you want. Unless you buy a fish with a collection locale attached to the name, you're never going to be 100% sure what your fish is, or isn't. It could very well be a mix of fish from several different locales.

And Tom, I just find it really funny how there are so many internet experts who are so adamant that they know everything about a subject when you're actually doing academics on fish in this family and being by far the most modest. Keep up the good work.

my bad, i guess i missed the part where i had to be an ichthyologist in order to post an opinion about a fish on an internet FORUM

i guess i should have waited until my article was published in TFH

 

[Sab_Fan]

my bad, i guess i missed the part where i had to be an ichthyologist in order to post an opinion about a fish on an internet FORUM

i guess i should have waited until my article was published in TFH

LOL . . .not that you need my vote, but based on what I've read you can post any d**n time you want

FWIW, I think the Texas/Green Texas (cyano/carpinte) debates must be among the toughest ones . . . not sure anybody ever wins in these . . .

 

[hairdog]

I beleive it is a carpintes. Whatever it is I have the very same species.

 

[sick_lid]

Species by definition are a man made construct, there's always going to be issues with "defining" species and clashing between the splitters and the lumpers.

To the original poster, call the fish whatever you want. Unless you buy a fish with a collection locale attached to the name, you're never going to be 100% sure what your fish is, or isn't. It could very well be a mix of fish from several different locales.

And Tom, I just find it really funny how there are so many internet experts who are so adamant that they know everything about a subject when you're actually doing academics on fish in this family and being by far the most modest. Keep up the good work.

Maybe you should have a talk with Admin and make it to where only experts can post on this public forum.