If your LFS is awesome is it okay

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That is true.

But I've not an impression that the petitioner is that hard headed.

I've been wrong before once, at most twice...
 
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I see the emotional response was high to my assertions and I understand why obviously. Not everyone, even people in the hobby for years such as myself, have located and or have access to a true diehard trustworthy LFS with progressive filtration that is completely trustworthy. I don't deny that's a hard thing for all but the most skilled, adept hobbyists to locate and gauge.


In that respect you all are wrong but right statistically in your supreme wrongness.

-Most people, even most tenured hobbyists on internet forums, won't be able to ever locate a priceless diehard LFS with progressive filtration and a giant, tenured setup, this is true.

-Most people are not statistically capable of keeping their fish healthy period, so while entirely wrong in your wrongness there is truth, most people are incapable of finding a good LFS (not some POS with great air conditioning, a REAL LFS with weird fish people that looks like a place no one with a Polo shirt ever walked in from the road before you pull in).


Yes if we're going off those realities then yes, I agree, perhaps the POS water that your internet wholesaler sent you is indeed questionable and you should be cautious.

However if you have a great LFS then you already know that their water is fine. The argument that a great LFS's water (better quality water than any of you will *ever* achieve in your tank) is dangerous is simply inaccurate.
 
I see the emotional response was high to my assertions and I understand why obviously. Not everyone, even people in the hobby for years such as myself, have located and or have access to a true diehard trustworthy LFS with progressive filtration that is completely trustworthy. I don't deny that's a hard thing for all but the most skilled, adept hobbyists to locate and gauge.


In that respect you all are wrong but right statistically in your supreme wrongness.

-Most people, even most tenured hobbyists on internet forums, won't be able to ever locate a priceless diehard LFS with progressive filtration and a giant, tenured setup, this is true.

-Most people are not statistically capable of keeping their fish healthy period, so while entirely wrong in your wrongness there is truth, most people are incapable of finding a good LFS (not some POS with great air conditioning, a REAL LFS with weird fish people that looks like a place no one with a Polo shirt ever walked in from the road before you pull in).


Yes if we're going off those realities then yes, I agree, perhaps the POS water that your internet wholesaler sent you is indeed questionable and you should be cautious.

However if you have a great LFS then you already know that their water is fine. The argument that a great LFS's water (better quality water than any of you will *ever* achieve in your tank) is dangerous is simply inaccurate.
Is This guy for real???!! Hahaha hahaha! Supreme wrongness.....LMAO!
 
I see the emotional response was high to my assertions and I understand why obviously. Not everyone, even people in the hobby for years such as myself, have located and or have access to a true diehard trustworthy LFS with progressive filtration that is completely trustworthy. I don't deny that's a hard thing for all but the most skilled, adept hobbyists to locate and gauge.


In that respect you all are wrong but right statistically in your supreme wrongness.

-Most people, even most tenured hobbyists on internet forums, won't be able to ever locate a priceless diehard LFS with progressive filtration and a giant, tenured setup, this is true.

-Most people are not statistically capable of keeping their fish healthy period, so while entirely wrong in your wrongness there is truth, most people are incapable of finding a good LFS (not some POS with great air conditioning, a REAL LFS with weird fish people that looks like a place no one with a Polo shirt ever walked in from the road before you pull in).


Yes if we're going off those realities then yes, I agree, perhaps the POS water that your internet wholesaler sent you is indeed questionable and you should be cautious.

However if you have a great LFS then you already know that their water is fine. The argument that a great LFS's water (better quality water than any of you will *ever* achieve in your tank) is dangerous is simply inaccurate.
Do you even realize how much of a pampas windbag you sound like?

Have you contributed ANYTHING useful since you joined MFK or just talk trash?

Is This guy for real???!! Hahaha hahaha! Supreme wrongness.....LMAO!
that is how they talk in his part of Middle-Earth
 
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Jesus Christ, ladies!

The only fish I've ever quarantined have been marine wild caught and F0 freshwater. I personally don't think there's any need to quarantine a tank bred fish. A pathogen that will affect a healthy fish these days is almost unheard of. A fish with ick does not just infect the rest of the tank with ick, that's not how it works.

To quarantine a fish properly it needs to be in a display size tank, not some sort of poxy 10/20g, this will do more harm than good. It would also need to be at least 90 days for it to be useful and ultra clean water. Having a small tank and saying you'll do 80% water changes a day is also counter productive as you're just going to just massively piss with the water parameters which will only stress the fish more.

So basically, if you're going to preach quarantine I hope you're doing it properly, because if you're not you'll be doing more harm than good, and my personal opinion is that if it hasn't come from the wild, don't waste your time.
 
Eh I don't know about all of that but most people's quarantine methods have worked nicely enough before your revelation.
 
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Eh I don't know about all of that but most people's quarantine methods have worked nicely enough brfore your revelation.

And how do you know they wouldn't have been just fine without doing it at all? I've never done it and I've also been fine, where are you going with this?

In the bodybuilding world we call this sort of thing 'bro-science'.

"Oh my mate down the gym said this is the best way to do it and he's massive so it must be true!"

Just because something happens to work or at least 'appears' to do so, doesn't mean that it's either necessary or the most effective way to do something.

If you're going to debate in what is clearly a hot topic, please have a little more substance than what you've demonstrated to me thus far...
 
I'm not going anywhere,you are the one here criticizing other people's methods.
 
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