No problem.lujor;4314926; said:
Btw, where are you in KY? I'm in Louisville, so all the stores I listed are in the Louisville area (except for Greentree which, as someone else has already said, is in Indiana, accross the river from Louisville).
Is a 240 too small for a Jardini?
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Btw, where are you in KY? I'm in Louisville, so all the stores I listed are in the Louisville area (except for Greentree which, as someone else has already said, is in Indiana, accross the river from Louisville).
drgnfrc13;4312412; said:Why else would depth even matter? And I've seen members here who have (or have had) large aros recommend the 6x2 footprint multiple times (you're not the only member here who owns large arows).
Yes I know I am not the only one with large silvers.
Seeing someone doing wrong makes it right for others to do?It is appalling though how people are willing to keep their prized fish in a tank that is only 2.5x the length of the arowana and wide at 80% it's length. So many people complain and moan about oscars in a 55g or bettas in a bowl, yet by ratio these fish are much better off then a 30" silver in a 180g. The 6x2 pen of death all you are planning on keeping your aro in for life.
How about providing enough space, so when your 30" silver is spooked it doesn't have to ram into the side glass or through the top because it has nowhere to go. So many aros end, dried up on the floor. Why do these aros jump out, for sport, does anyone really believe they are going for food. No nine times out of ten is was because they were spooked and had no room to move.
Again there are those who will preach that a 6x2' space is good for life regarding silvers because they see their 24" silver doing just fine. Where are all those keepers of 30"+ arowana in a 180g, why do they not speak out? Maybe cause they know what they have is wrong, very wrong.
If ya can't properly provide for the fish ya keep, then what good are you?
HighBackRTG;4312444; said:
With the exception of the platinum these are all the same color variation. You do realize that tank setup and lighting will have alot to do with the color of the fish, right? If everything in the tank is black what color would you expect the jardini to be.
As for this green one
The jardini is the only thing in the pic that is green?
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The issue of Oscars kept in a 55 gallon as well as bettas kept in a bowl is that in either situation, there is absolutely no way you could possibly mantain good water quality, which isn't the case with a silver arowana in a 6x2 tank. And stating that the reason aros jump is because they have nowhere else to go makes you a hypocrite and basically means that the vast majority arowana owners (and keepers of any other large fish in general, for that matter) are bad fishkeepers, because if you put a fish in a glass box then where the hell do you expect it to go? It isn't like your tank provides so much space that your aros can move in any direction and never hit a glass wall either. Going by that logic, keeping an arowana in any less than a 12,000 gallon tank is animal cruelty. If we all kept fish in "ideal" setups, then this website would no even exist, because most people wouldn't be able to afford to "properly" house anything over 6".Bderick67;4315089; said:
That's not really what I meant by that statement, I was basically saying that you are not the only one with an opinion that can be backed up by personal experience. My reason for saying that was b/c it seems that whenever someone disagrees with you, you blow up on them and start preaching your own opinions as if no one else's opinions matter.Yes I know I am not the only one with large silvers.
I didn't know that green plants and a greenish hue tank would lead to making a Jardini look green. Wouldn't it make more sense if the jardini weren't green to actually stand out more? The fact it kinda blends in shows that it was slightly green to begin with. But hey you obviously know more about this than I do, so I'll take your word over my own.
Well, actually with many fish their coloration is greatly affected by lighting and the colors of their surroundings (I'm not sure why tbh), which could be part of the reason that fish looked green, but I think it was probably mainly due to the camera's settings. Bderick sometimes is correct, he just has a very rude, insulting, arrogant, and belittling way of doing it. I have said it once before, and I'll say it again: I have no idea how he has managed to avoid being banned for all these years.HighBackRTG;4315811; said:
drgnfrc13;4315678; said:
Your entitled to your opinion, unfortunately your aro will be the one to suffer for it
Water quality can be kept pristine in any example I gave, they all have to do with being cruel in the space given for these fish to live.Also simple math skills will show that my tank, as you put it, has twice the swimming area of your 6x2'. Of coarse you don't think it matters.
You are missing the point. The fact that your tank is larger than mine is irrelevant. Neither of our tanks provide enough space to where if the arowana got spooked it could just shoot off in any direction and not hit the glass. You think that you are so much better than everyone else because your tank is so big, but really no home aquarium is big enough to eliminate the risk of jumping, which basically makes your arguement that my tank is too small hypocritical. If you want to tell me that I am not providing enough for my arowana, then I want to see the multiple-thousand gallon enclosure that you have yours in.Bderick67;4316693; said:Your entitled to your opinion, unfortunately your aro will be the one to suffer for it
Also simple math skills will show that my tank, as you put it, has twice the swimming area of your 6x2'. Of coarse you don't think it matters.
drgnfrc13;4316807; said:
No, you are basing your opinion on what you think you know. I am basing my opinion on what I have experienced. I seen the change in behavior of my fish, when moved from a 180g into the tank that is over twice the size. They are very calm, very seldom do they ever spazz out, they occasionally chase one another at rather high speeds, yet have room to move freely. They don't swim at a lethargic rate across the tank with no purpose. Most of all, they don't hit the sides nor the top when spooked.
Now you want to come up with this moronic argument "that no tank is big enough for a silver"
and this may be true. I don't believe this neither do you, what we have is a difference of opinion on minimum tank size. So until you have experience in the matter, stop spewing the BS that a silver aro will be fine in a 6x2' tank for life. Yours may be deemed that fate, but there is no reason for other silvers to suffer the same.- Status
