Is Bruce starting to fade......
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27c you say. I was reading (lots of different sources) that 30c and above is best. This is first time I'm hearing different, and you say this in reference to Kamfa specifically. May I ask your thinking on this - not doubting you, just curious is all.
He is definitely a Kamfa. Strain wise I'm not bothered - I simply like him regardless.
I get that may be true... but people can and do call there flowerhorn whatever funny name they wish.. as I understand a red dragon is usually a zz strain is it not? And this looks more kamfa.. but it does not look like a fader?
Few sellers sell a nothing different fish with whatever name they want. Some inbreed fish for certain characteristics and name a line something. Yes you are right most red dragons are zz and most faders too. A kamfa can fade too. It still has genes from red devil. I have seen adults fade, I have seen red dragons fade as well, these are rare cases but do happen. Both cases were on this forum.
Ah I see what you wrote before... well you learn something new everyday... now if he did fade.. wouldnt he already have done that to get the color/pattern he has now.. or will he fade from this stage?
He didn't fade, he just growing right now and getting adult colors like coming in to age. He can fade, no way to say for sure.
30 degree is an extreme temperature. I have few of my reasoning discussed here.
Flowerhorn tank temperature
Today I saw few posts on recommended temperature on facebook flowerhorn groups to be 86F, that to me is crazy high. It's norm and people rarely talk about it, let alone debate. To be fair I used to believe in 84. On quick google search most recommendation found are for higher temperature range...
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I appreciate your insight. Think I will continue my research in this area to see what I dig up. For now most of what I find does suggest closer to the 30c mark.30 degree is an extreme temperature. I have few of my reasoning discussed here.
Flowerhorn tank temperature
Today I saw few posts on recommended temperature on facebook flowerhorn groups to be 86F, that to me is crazy high. It's norm and people rarely talk about it, let alone debate. To be fair I used to believe in 84. On quick google search most recommendation found are for higher temperature range...
It's good to research but do weigh the sources. Most knowledgeable people prefer pure species over hybrids. RD. is one of the very few who kept flowerhorns and kept his tank at 78-79°C. After that I decided to pull up info from reliable sites on original species that were used to make flowerhorns and those temperature made sense.
Many (please do mind and consider I am not saying all) flowerhorn keepers do crazy talk about food and never consider ingredients or even nutrients, most use okiko and/or humpy head. IMO hikari foods are better than those and northfin, NLS completely blew them out of the water. If you have seen few red dragons lines that are popular you would get a idea (Attaching one picture).
Unrelated: There was this statistics problem I came across that intrigued me, if I have bunch of things, each can be a potato or rock and I have given weight of each and probability of each being a potato (between 0 to 1) and asked to figure out average weight of potato. The formula is interesting, you multiply weight by probability then sum all of those up and divide by total of probability numbers given. Basically you consider each weight but only to extent of it being right.
Personally I don't consider myself as a potato, I have been the part of the forum for almost decade but have been absent and recently started paying attention to everything. But there are few people on forum whose advice I take over almost any other hobbyist.
Fyi don't trust sources that are made for flowerhorns, many flowerhorn keepers do things like keep their flowerhorn in really high temperatures because it makes them more active at the expense of a shortened life span or feed them food that has the amount of protein you would feed a predator like a dovii, because they think their nuchal hump will grow, even though all it does is just build up fat around their organs. You should probably look at amphilophus and vieja care guides because they are the base for flowerhorns and usually have keepers who don't follow a lot superstitions like flowerhorn keepers do.
I'd have to agree with everyone else saying that it's definitely not faded. I currently have 2 faded female FH's, 1 looks almost identical to her father except a smaller kok, darker color and just a single faded spot at the end of her anal fin. The other female (sister to the other) she ended up fading almost entirely, she ended up so faded that she looks like neither parent. The fading process can be very subtle or blatant. I'll post pics of my 2 girls to show what I mean by this. Both are from the same parents and batch of fry but both are very different from one another.
I have researched FH to a lot tbh, and have avoided those specialist FH foods and sites. My aim is to give a balanced diet (Hikari) good interactions and excellent water conditions, rest will take care of itself.
Main reason I guess most sites point to 30c is cause of digestive related issues - which does make sense I feel... for now..
