killing asian arowanas???

[pressure_cooker]

you may be right, but as long as the arowana dont have any certificate, whether it is a captive bred arowana it would be still considered a wild arowana.

and you assume that people will not buy wild caught arowanas? i dont think so, because some people will buy arowanas that dont have a certificate, the reason is because they are much more cheaper than the captive bred ones.

 

[bfhslilred93]

But still they wouldn't have the attractive colors

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

But still they wouldn't have the attractive colors

So? whats your point in that?

 

[pressure_cooker]

But still they wouldn't have the attractive colors

it is still an asian arowana.

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

Its not totally dull you know...its just that wild asian aros look like really low quality asian aros. They're not completely colourless and dull. If tehy were, id be pretty much impossible to get them to the colours they are now withouth injecting dye into them.

 

[pressure_cooker]

Its not totally dull you know...its just that wild asian aros look like really low quality asian aros. They're not completely colourless and dull. If tehy were, id be pretty much impossible to get them to the colours they are now withoth injecting dye into them.

you dont need to inject medication on arowanas just to make them look elegant, all you just need is make them healthy by giving them the right food and good water parameters and a bit of tanning. then everything will be fine.

 

[AU_Arowana-RG]

It's not that people won't buy them, it's just that most of the demand resides in the fancy variants, what with all the talk of RTGs, Chilli Reds, and Crossbacks.

Legal status makes wild-caught and certificateless captive-breds the same, but in quality, there is a big difference. Wild caughts only look, at best, like a green, whilst these certficateless captive breds can be just about anything, be it Xbacks, SRs, RTGs, or Banjar Reds.

And, just to inform, there are unregistered arowana farms over in thailand and some other SEA countries. They haven't registered with CITES and thus lack the chips and certficates that the registered farms have.

And BTW, a number of arowana farms don't simply make their income off of Arowanas alone. And US breeding is possible in the southern most states and Hawaii.

 

[groovitudedude]

Okay, I just read the whole thread. I personally don't even like aros, never owned one, never will. Anyway, here goes nothing...

Ok first of in the US, WE DO NOT KILL ASIAN AROWANA THAT ARE SMUGGLED IN.

This is a rumor and a lie. Don't spread it.

There are several facilities that hold the animals as criminal evidence until trial. If some do die while being held, blame the idiots smuggling them. Protection of an endangered species is NOT a stupid law. It's the kind of law that needs to be in place to protect rare animals from money hungry idiots exploiting them for profit.

If you really are upset about the endangered status of the asian arowana, spend money to any group that is reintroducing them into the wild and doing a current wild population study to show they are making a come back.

End of story.

Thank you for clearing this up ZD.

i dont give a rat's a** where it happened point is it did happen

Where it occured is essential to the discussion.

If somehow the Asian Aro was lifted from all banned lists the poachers in their native areas would go into overdrive collecting the wild specimens for shipment.These would be the people who arent wealthy enough to have their own farm facilities,they wont concern themselves with how many they are pulling from the rivers or lakes.They would find importers to ship them here even though they wouldnt be the colorful artificial farm raised variety.The lifting of a ban would cause such a demand here that there would be aros for just about any income level and the prices would go down eventually but the collecting of wild aros wont stop which would push them closer to extinction in the wild.I dont see why they couldnt be bred down in Florida on the private farms like they do with Africans and most other tropicals.

Excellent point.

instead of killing arowana those people should be killed who give such order and all of them associated with this

This is uncalled for.

Owning them is illegal. I've seen a few for sale though in chinatown and one in brooklyn haha. Trust me it was very tempting to shell out the dough for one but it's not worth going to jail over a fish (yes even an asian arowana).

Good point. This is why I will never buy a Gar, Ray, Piranha, or other illegal fish.

its called george w bush who will soon be out of office

Politics; against the rules.

yea like gwb actually does any work

Politics; against the rules.

because they are beautiful respected fish with a sort of "collectors value" if you will. Their different types and regal gorgeous color variations make them very appealing, also I'm sure that alot of their appeal comes from the fact that they are illegal to own. I'll admit that I too would kill to be able to own one.

What I can conclude is that if everybody just followed the law, then there would be no reason to hate the government. If you want to do something about it, like ZooDiver said, join a conservation club or something. Or you could write a letter to the government on this subject instead of whining about the law. I along with 99.99% of MFK cannot do anything about the law, so complaining here will accomplish nothing.

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

you dont need to inject medication on arowanas just to make them look elegant, all you just need is make them healthy by giving them the right food and good water parameters and a bit of tanning. then everything will be fine.

thats not neccesarily true. If the BREED itself could look that elegant, then proper nutrition could bring out its colour. But its if wild, theres no way of making the colour elegant with just proper health and nutrition. How do you think we get so many types of asian aros. Dont tell me they all ate different things and after a couple generations they turned into different colours. If your theory was right, was reds, chilli reds, rtgs, and greens, all from the same wild asian aro specie except they all ate different foods, thus their colours are THAT different?

 

[pressure_cooker]

It's not that people won't buy them, it's just that most of the demand resides in the fancy variants, what with all the talk of RTGs, Chilli Reds, and Crossbacks.

Legal status makes wild-caught and certificateless captive-breds the same, but in quality, there is a big difference. Wild caughts only look, at best, like a green, whilst these certficateless captive breds can be just about anything, be it Xbacks, SRs, RTGs, or Banjar Reds.

And, just to inform, there are unregistered arowana farms over in thailand and some other SEA countries. They haven't registered with CITES and thus lack the chips and certficates that the registered farms have.

And BTW, a number of arowana farms don't simply make their income off of Arowanas alone. And US breeding is possible in the southern most states and Hawaii.

look as long as asian arowana dont a have a chip it IS considered wild. if you what you said is true, philippines is also a SEA country, how come that there is no report of someone being successful in breeding this fish? There are also asian arowanas in the US right? they are being kept by zoologists right? they should have bred this fish, but howcome that there no reports that they are successful in breeding this fish. look philippines are having difficulty breeding this fish, a country which almost has the same climate in malaysia, singapore and indonesia ( and indonesia is just beside philippines ). So how can US bred this fish?