L046 pleco setup

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Flow rate in zebra tanks is over rated. I know a pleco breeder who is #4 on the Planetcatfish.com BreederBoard. He uses air powered Poret foam cubes in his pleco breeding tanks. The more important consideration is that zebras like it warm. When one has to encrourage them to spawn byt doing a fry/rainy season, the water temp. should top out in the low 90s F. These temp. are reached in the Big bend of the Xingu, their only habitat in the wild.

The warmer water gets, the less oxygen it holds. For zebras well oxygentated water is more important than flow. However, that doesn't mean no flow either. My breeding tanks has 2 filters and one powerhead. There is an AquaClear 150 gph that hang on the right rear. There is a H.O.T. magnum using the micron cartridge whic I custom plumbed. That hangs on the left rear. It has a spraybar output which runs across the top right end of the tank and sends water across the surface. The intak runs into a hose which runs along the bottom rear of the tank and when it reaches the right end has an elbow which hooks into a prefilter sponged intake that runs arcross the bottom right end of the tank.

Finally the is a small powerhad which is also prefiltered and which is set on the left and glass at the front of the tank. I pushes a flow down the front glass. All the caves in the tank are lined up across the bottom of the tank facing the front glass, The powerhead creates flow across the cave entrance.

While strong flow may be appealing, it does have some drawbacks. Most notable is what it does to food and to waste. If the food gets blown into places the fish cannot get at it, it is goinh to rot there. Similarly, current will blow waste around. Finding and removing it can be a problem. Also, if one uses a sand substrate, that too can be hard to keep in place with strong current. I work with a number of the B&W Hypancistrus. Some of my tanks are bare bottom and some have sand. It is easier to spot debris on sand, but it is easier to vacuum bare glass. My zebra tank is bare bottom. I am a horrid photographer but this might help. Most of my spawns took place in the slate caves on either side of the wood at the right end.

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The plants were removed eventually. Back then a new tank got plants to help insure it was fish safe re ammonia.

One thing that is important to understand. There is almost no one way to do anything in this hobby. Pretty much the only universals I come up with are a container, water and food. What works for me in terms of set-up may not be right for another and for sure not everyone. I set up my tanks for the comfort of the fish. When I have to catch fish, I have to remove everything from the tank to do so. Other folks have set-ups that are more keeper friendly. A bigger tank, big wood and caves for example. A lot of the success one achieves in this hobby is in figuring out what things work best for them. I work with my plecos in groups, but as one of the experts who helped me was always willing to remind me "it only takes a pair to spawn."

When you get your group assembled, we can discuss feeding. Imo, what and howyou feed is almost the most important part of spawning fish. This presumes there are in a proper sized tank with the right parameter water and the propper aquascape. Those things are easy, food is less simple. For spawning fish the best food is live. But I drew the line there. I tend to feed about 40-45% each frozen and Repashy and then about 10-15% commercial sinking sticks from kensfish.com. Feeding mostly commercial flakes etc. will not yield great results when it comes to spawning fish. Diet matters.

Really great info...I too am interested in breeding Zebras and have 5. Thx
 
Almost any fish worth breeding needs good food. Look at the ingredient list for most commercial foods and see how many ingredients you see that a fish in the wild would never know existed let alone something it would normally eat. The other thing to look at as where the ingredient it is sold for appears on the list. Normally ingredients are listed in order of their relative presence in the product. If one can provide it, live food is generally the best option.

When it comes to a breeding set-up for zebras, the only thing I try to avoid is directing current into caves. I want it to blow across cave mouths not into them. The point of a cave in nature is it is protected from flow as well as providing a safe space. Most of the fish in the Xingu where the zebras live are bigger than they are. Dad will keep the cave clean and oxygenated. The eggs are not sticky like cory eggs. Dad doesn't need to deal with them being blown around or out of the cave. Don't forget that it takes about 4 weeks from egg to free swimming for. He has to eat now and then during that time. How could he leave eggs or wigglers if they are going to be blown out of the cave by current/flow? In the wild he picks his "cave" in our tanks he gets what we provide.
 
Almost any fish worth breeding needs good food. Look at the ingredient list for most commercial foods and see how many ingredients you see that a fish in the wild would never know existed let alone something it would normally eat. The other thing to look at as where the ingredient it is sold for appears on the list. Normally ingredients are listed in order of their relative presence in the product. If one can provide it, live food is generally the best option.

When it comes to a breeding set-up for zebras, the only thing I try to avoid is directing current into caves. I want it to blow across cave mouths not into them. The point of a cave in nature is it is protected from flow as well as providing a safe space. Most of the fish in the Xingu where the zebras live are bigger than they are. Dad will keep the cave clean and oxygenated. The eggs are not sticky like cory eggs. Dad doesn't need to deal with them being blown around or out of the cave. Don't forget that it takes about 4 weeks from egg to free swimming for. He has to eat now and then during that time. How could he leave eggs or wigglers if they are going to be blown out of the cave by current/flow? In the wild he picks his "cave" in our tanks he gets what we provide.
I have been reading a bunch of old threads in another forum and if you are the same person responding in the old threads (user names are the same) then you have been breeding these fish for a long time and have been very successful! I’m taking in all the information you are posting and I’m sure I will have questions once I really get going!
I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge
 
Almost any fish worth breeding needs good food. Look at the ingredient list for most commercial foods and see how many ingredients you see that a fish in the wild would never know existed let alone something it would normally eat. The other thing to look at as where the ingredient it is sold for appears on the list. Normally ingredients are listed in order of their relative presence in the product. If one can provide it, live food is generally the best option.

When it comes to a breeding set-up for zebras, the only thing I try to avoid is directing current into caves. I want it to blow across cave mouths not into them. The point of a cave in nature is it is protected from flow as well as providing a safe space. Most of the fish in the Xingu where the zebras live are bigger than they are. Dad will keep the cave clean and oxygenated. The eggs are not sticky like cory eggs. Dad doesn't need to deal with them being blown around or out of the cave. Don't forget that it takes about 4 weeks from egg to free swimming for. He has to eat now and then during that time. How could he leave eggs or wigglers if they are going to be blown out of the cave by current/flow? In the wild he picks his "cave" in our tanks he gets what we provide.
Once again great info indeed.
 
"I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge "
@ Niki_up

When I got into the hobby in Jan. 01 there was no social media. There were many forums with chat rooms for fish keepers and some had some amazing people on them. I found one such small site where there were a number of people who were legends in the hobby. They put up with this newbie and they taught me a lot. One of them was responsible for my getting the breeding group of zebras in 2006.

Long story short, I have always felt an obligation to play it frward in terms of being willing to help people just as I was helped. After all, when any of us contribute to the knowledge of another keeper, it is the fish who will benefit as much as the fish keeper. ;)
 
Oops I did it again!!
I went out and got a group today.
still waiting for the tank to come in and the stand to be built.
at least when the tank comes in I will have everything I need to setup their tank! Should be a fairly quick setup.
Next pay I’ll get the filter and put it on one of my current tanks to start seeding it.

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