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BadOleRoss;3866351; said:
I am trying to plug as few things in as possible. I thnk the key in the drip plate is going to be having the right amount of holes and the right size holes. I might even put the drip plate at a slight angle to move the water along. The drip plate continues to be a pain in the tail. The plastic pegboard is nowhere to be found in Lowe's land so I am stil looking at different solutions. I have started the build thread...you'll find it here:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305927

my drip plate has a 1/4" fall, and from left to right the holes go from 1/8",3/16",1/4". Just my .02 cents.
 
"I am going to do a little testing when it comes to the drip plate. I am thinking about making the holes intentionally small and then expanding the holes at the far end of the plate till it's close to right."

I'm not convinced thats necessary, for these reasons three...

1. Water flows to the place of least resistance but where it flows most it cloggs first.

2. Water flowing through each of the scrubbies doesn't need to be equal.

3. Unless you have huge holes compared to the flow rate...it wont help.

Of course I could be wrong in thinking that a reasonable spread of reasonable sized holes will work as reasonably well as any over thought configuration... but I don't think so :)
 
My main objective is to get the most out of the filter. If I have all of the water falling through the first 2/3rd of the filter plate, I have waisted the remaining 3rd. If I can drill holes of the correct size so I can get some water over all of the bio filter I will get better results. As far as clogging, I plan on running the water through filter socks and foam prior to it getting to the plate. With any luck, very little will get by that will clog up the plate. Roughly 20gpm is going to be running through each side of this sump. With that volume, I think I can make the holes of a size where all of the water does not pass through the plate.....some of it just rolls on by!
 
Well I think your design is exceptional and will work well whatever you decide.

What I mean with regards to the scrubbies is that even if 50% of the filter material is processing 90% of the flow its not detrimental to the effectiveness of the filter. IMO

As for the under used 50%...Low flow rates _assist_ in gasseous exchange, as I understand.
 
As long as you get it to pool in the drip plate it will spread evenly itself. Start out with some small holes and let it run. Then keep drilling more and drill them bigger until you get it just right so it pools in the drip tray but doesn't overflow it.
 
Sirspifalot;3870232; said:
As long as you get it to pool in the drip plate it will spread evenly itself. Start out with some small holes and let it run. Then keep drilling more and drill them bigger until you get it just right so it pools in the drip tray but doesn't overflow it.


I agree. Dont drill too many/too big right off the bat. However, if you do drill too many holes, silicone is great for filling them. You can always upgrade to the powerhead idea (or use the Tee off your return line) if you're not getting the even distribution you wanted.
 
JakeH;3875158; said:
Why no scrubbies? Just curious...

I think in this application using Poret foam is a better decision and will give me better mecanical and biological filtration. Scrubbies would certianly be cheaper, I can set the whole sump up with scrubbies for about $160.00. The Poret foam is going to cost me over $200.00. Foam IMO is better for bio filtration. Having the water enter the sump through filter socks, rise in a chamber of whatever filter media I feel like using at the time and then fall through 3 layers of foam (10, 20 and 30ppi) seem like great filtration to me. Every 6mo or so I will have to remove the foam, clean them up a little, and put them back in. I know how water will travel through the foam, I have read that water falls straight through scrubbies and a lot of the surface area is waisted....that's enought to make me pay more for foam.
 
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