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svang55;4204360; said:
Bj has already said he never talked to kos but don't know if one of the guys from his camp did or not. But bj also said he's always suspected gsp of being on something. I think bj is a little too obsessed with gsp
Yeah but that does'nt give Koshchek the call to go name dropping so called sources for his rumors.What he did borders on libel.
 
krichardson;4204371; said:
Yeah but that does'nt give Koshchek the call to go name dropping so called sources for his rumors.What he did borders on libel.

oh yea, it was stupid of him to even mention bj's camp

i like bj but i wish he'd get over gsp and move on
 
svang55;4204360; said:
I think bj is a little too obsessed with gsp
Thats funny.

svang55;4204374; said:
i like bj but i wish he'd get over gsp and move on
I've never noticed but now I will keep an ear or eye on BJ's comments.
 
krichardson;4204380; said:
Thats funny.


I've never noticed but now I will keep an ear or eye on BJ's comments.

it was a hard loss for him. which is why he filed the lawsuit, and anytime he talks about gsp you can tell he's still affected by it. he kind of did it to himself, he may have talked so much crap that that pill was just to hard to swallow.

I'll try to find the interview of his response when asked if he talked to kos

edit: here it is
http://www.5thround.com/39794/bj-penn-i-didnt-call-josh-koscheck-he-must-have-been-reading-my-mind/

“In my opinion, he doesn’t play by the rules when it comes to steroids and growth hormones and that stuff. Look at him. He’s the worst. He looks like that every day. That’s cheating. There is a reason why there are rules against using steroids. The rest of us, we get fat, then we train and get skinny and the cycle goes over and over again. He looks the same way all the time. Come on.”
 
svang55;4204392; said:
it was a hard loss for him. which is why he filed the lawsuit, and anytime he talks about gsp you can tell he's still affected by it. he kind of did it to himself, he may have talked so much crap that that pill was just to hard to swallow.

I'll try to find the interview of his response when asked if he talked to kos

edit: here it is
http://www.5thround.com/39794/bj-penn-i-didnt-call-josh-koscheck-he-must-have-been-reading-my-mind/

“In my opinion, he doesn’t play by the rules when it comes to steroids and growth hormones and that stuff. Look at him. He’s the worst. He looks like that every day. That’s cheating. There is a reason why there are rules against using steroids. The rest of us, we get fat, then we train and get skinny and the cycle goes over and over again. He looks the same way all the time. Come on.”
Wow,so whats the lawsuit for?
 
krichardson;4204399; said:
Wow,so whats the lawsuit for?

after their last fight, they accused gsp of greasing. it was called "grease gate" by the fans. bj's camp accused gsp's camp of rubbing vaseline on gsp's body, making him slippery so bj couldn't do his thing on the ground. couldn't tie him up properly. this affected his ability to defend, he couldn't properly put up an offense on the ground, took punishment that he may not have if it wasn't for the allegde greasing

he accepts the loss, he says he got his butt kicked, he's not saying the outcome would have been different if gsp didn't grease, but he believes gsp cheated. i don't think anyone was penalized or found guilty of greasing. but they did get a new law passed. not sure the details but vaseline is now illegal to be used. they use something else now i think to apply to the face and on cuts.

personally, to me he seems a little obsessed and still affected by the loss. gsp responded by offering an immediate rematch. bj penn accepted but then filed the complaint asking for action from NSAC, suspensions, fines,..... but NSAC took no action

edit: http://www.cagepotato.com/bj-penns-...-over-vaseline-st-pierres-back-between-rounds

it was a formal complaint, not a lawsuit, i think there's a difference, i dunno

and here are some rules that changed since the complaint. I was wrong, they do still use Vaseline but who can apply it, where and when is more controlled. found this in wikipedia which I usually dont' use as a source but this seems to be accurate:

"In response to the incident, the rules of the UFC were modified so that only the official "cut men" would be allowed to have or apply Vaseline to the fighters. The procedures governing the transition from the fighters walk-in to the cage and while in the cage were also changed. Previously, fighters would walk up next to the cage, see the cut man who would apply Vaseline, be checked by the referee, and then have an opportunity to speak with or hug their coaches or cornermen before entering the cage. To prevent an opportunity for the fighters to have Vaseline applied illicitly, fighters now must first part from any company, have Vaseline applied by the cut man, be checked by the referee, and then go directly to the cage. Finally, no cornermen will be allowed to have Vaseline in the cage between rounds. In this way, the fighter's contact with Vaseline is fully controlled by the cut men and referee, who work independently for the UFC."
 
I think the reason why other guys, BJ especially, get fat after a fight, and GSP doesn't, is because GSP continues to train, all the time, regardless of whether he has a fight coming up or not.
Thats probably why GSP is the Champ and BJ isn't.
 
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