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No it looked to be fine, this was the first time ive had one and other then in a public aquarium even saw one. I had 2 powerheads marineland 600s going with the air intput on (not full on lol that would be insane) and it basically parked itself in the current and was being quite chill, the cten checked him out and nothing seemed like it was about to try and nip him or anything. I watched him for almost 3 hours then went to do some things around the house and came back to him flying in the current dead. I do know they are somewhat fragile, maybe the stress of it being shipped + the bucket not being aerated + acclimation was too much for the little guy.
Im pretty sure i got a lock on a 6 inch FATF which should be a little hardier then the 3.5 inch TATF. Im still upset the ONLY thing i didnt double check was the thing that helped kill it, but im still confident i can keep one of these guys and like i said before, am not deterred from ATF. Honestly, i dont mind learning experiences like this costing a pretty penny, at least i didnt go with the one i was about to pay 150+ shipping lol. Im in the aquaria thing for the long haul here so i figured things like this would happen sometimes. Live n Learn
Im pretty sure i got a lock on a 6 inch FATF which should be a little hardier then the 3.5 inch TATF. Im still upset the ONLY thing i didnt double check was the thing that helped kill it, but im still confident i can keep one of these guys and like i said before, am not deterred from ATF. Honestly, i dont mind learning experiences like this costing a pretty penny, at least i didnt go with the one i was about to pay 150+ shipping lol. Im in the aquaria thing for the long haul here so i figured things like this would happen sometimes. Live n Learn
ATF don't like to be moved. They require high O2 levels as noted before. They also get stressed very quickly if you're catching them to move. So when they're panting away in the temporary bucket or bag they're using up the O2. Whenever I had to move my ATFs I only kept them in a black bag for no more than 5-10 minutes. Any change in temp is much less worse than lack of O2.
That is the info I wish I had came upon before yesterday. I was told bucket acclimation is best for anything a long time ago and its never failed me so I didn't think to double check that. Lesson learned
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"is the filter working" water tests are only going to answer one thing, and if you've had fish living in it for a year, then I'm gonna venture to guess the answer is yes, the filter is working, however I always tend to doubt 0 Nitrate readings, but that's irrelevant.
Ever heard of TDS shock? IF you read up on PH shock it usually spills into TDS shock. Long story short you can have 2 different water sources that both test the same when you do the typical Ammo, Nitrite, Nitrate, even PH tests, but yet test wayyyyy different in PPM (TDS) or Microsiemens (conductivity). IF you have a probe then you know why the fish died. IF you don't, you call it a fluke, unexplainable death, or just bad luck, then the insanity starts...... Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Most people here don't seem to acknowledge that testing water parameters involves more then "is the filter working" tests. My personal experience is regretting not buying conductivity and PH probes years ago. Measuring conductivity can really change how a person views "clean" water. IF you're really going to keep expensive monsters for a long time, I'd highly recommend doing a little research into some good testing equipment, cause I speak from experience when I say this----- You can feel really stupid when you spend LOTS of money on fish year after year when you really have no clue about the water you're keeping them in.
Don't feel bad if you don't want to acknowledge the fact that getting a good idea on water chemistry may costs hundreds of dollars, don't worry.... The masses believe that a fish will adapt to your water no matter how far from their natural habitat it is, so you can just assume everything is fine. It's cheaper and funner this way. After all it is just a "hobby".......
Ever heard of TDS shock? IF you read up on PH shock it usually spills into TDS shock. Long story short you can have 2 different water sources that both test the same when you do the typical Ammo, Nitrite, Nitrate, even PH tests, but yet test wayyyyy different in PPM (TDS) or Microsiemens (conductivity). IF you have a probe then you know why the fish died. IF you don't, you call it a fluke, unexplainable death, or just bad luck, then the insanity starts...... Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Most people here don't seem to acknowledge that testing water parameters involves more then "is the filter working" tests. My personal experience is regretting not buying conductivity and PH probes years ago. Measuring conductivity can really change how a person views "clean" water. IF you're really going to keep expensive monsters for a long time, I'd highly recommend doing a little research into some good testing equipment, cause I speak from experience when I say this----- You can feel really stupid when you spend LOTS of money on fish year after year when you really have no clue about the water you're keeping them in.
Don't feel bad if you don't want to acknowledge the fact that getting a good idea on water chemistry may costs hundreds of dollars, don't worry.... The masses believe that a fish will adapt to your water no matter how far from their natural habitat it is, so you can just assume everything is fine. It's cheaper and funner this way. After all it is just a "hobby".......
I've had instances where after a move they flip over on their backs. However they're still alive but just stressed. You need to give them lots of O2 and turn off the lights for some peace. Usually after 15 mins or so they flip back over and they're good to go.
I waited a solid half hour before taking him out of the tank or trying to net or touch him.. he was lifeless, no gill movement, no eye or jaw movement, and I had the lights off the whole time and the power heads on w/ the air inputs. At first a lot of air bubbles were sticking to him and I know that can cause problems so I lowered them a slight amount and they went away. Thank you for the advice though in case that happens again
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So am I understanding this correctly??? A 3-4" fish chewed up all the oxygen in a bucket of water? Help me understand guys.....
Lol i opened the back, and put the fish and bagwater in the bucket, this had the effect that others had stated stressed the fish far too much and it died after being in the tank about 4 hours, i didnt put the fish in a bucket full of water, the shape of it though is perfect for the amount of bagwater, he was swimming around just fine in there as the drip started
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