New 12' Tank!!

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Mystix212;1459862;1459862 said:
I think of is as a waste of resources.

There is far more efficent filtration available on the market or a fraction of the cost.
You aren't going to get more efficiency, but you will get lower costs.
 
Tsunamiboy77;1460162;1460162 said:
but with 20 canisters working at the same time, it woudnt need to be cleaned as NEARLY as often as have 2 or 3
Eheim canisters are not good at mech filtration, which is what is the primary bulk of filter cleaning. My eheims don't get cleans very often at all, they don't need it.
 
Stone Like Fish;1460073;1460073 said:
Lol, you guys are all saying "i would of gone with sump" but thats probably because your so envious and can't afford those filters...(me included, but i see nothing wrong with the filtration. Like, have oyu ever seen it done before?)
I can afford that pretty easily, I have a several filters that are more expensive than the 2080. The point isn't that he has money to throw around, but rather that he has wasted a lot of money where it could have been spent on more realistic things.
 
Mystix212;1459455;1459455 said:
What was the thinking behind 20 Eheim Pro 3e's? Why wouldnt you just have a large sump or two follow by a few canisters?
Those are pro 3's not pro 3e's. The electronic eheims are better, and cost more than the 2080 filters.
 
first off, i'm getting this question alot so let me answer..
the tank dimensions are 15x3x3. 1,000 gallons GLASS. sorry it wasn't 12 but 15'.

and other comments that are flamingblaming me for having 20 eheim filters...why do you care??? seriously. it's my money, my tank, my electricity, my bills.
the way your comments are posted sounds like you're trying to make fun of me for having alot of filters...

whatever the sump or refugium or wet/dry filter, i don't now what you call it but they're EXTREMELY confusing to me. and i currently don't have the time to learn about any more filters so this it the route i took.
stupid and expensive or not, it's my choice.
the more filters you have, the less slight ammonia/nitrite spike the fish would have to suffer through after feeding time.
you must know that; all the food instantly turns into ammonia after dumping in the tank, so the more filters you have, the more polluted water are sucked in and turned into relatively harmless nitrates.


and i'm a really big eheim fan, i LOVE eheims, and it's been a dream of mine to PACK the cabinet with eheim filters.
weird dream but if you don't like it, then please keep your comments to yourself.

also, this is nothing close to the filtration mother nature has in the lakes and rivers on this Earth.
the tank will be pretty packed and they will be massive waste producers, and some will pee alot from eating fruits. so i will be needing this filtration.
also all of the eheims are used to provide oxygen to the tank as well. i do not like air pumps and powerheads that take too much space in the tank(tubing, airstone, etc.).

lots of fish=lots of filters and oxygen


tunerX;1459346; said:
Jebus, thats alot of filters. What are you planning for filter maintenance?

well since i did buy 20 of them, i'm thinking maybe the owner of eheim can come down and clean them every month.
lol jkjk
the tank is in Japan and I go back every 4~8weeks.
and since i do have alot of filters on the tank, I wouldn't have to clean them as much as having 1 or 2 in one tank.
So I'm gonna clean them myself probably every 6weeks or 2months.


hbluehunter;1459393; said:
I do have to say that pluming job is clean as hell, i'm really impressed how good that looks..

lol it's only a big piece of glass still


haloman02;1459399; said:
LoL how much does each of those canisters cost like 300+? LoL That is a big tank its as long as my room. Maybe one day i can have a tnk like that just mybe. Good luck with it and is that a fish room?

i did get around $1,800 off though, bulk discount.

yup it's a NEW fish room, can you see the other tanks behind it?


rallysman;1459410; said:
I'd hate to have to clean all of those!! Awesome tank!

i can't wait!
hey; maintenance is part of the "fun" in aquariums.
although it would probably take me 90minutes just to clean the sponges


OscartheGrouch;1459438; said:
Whoa!!! You followed an Eheim rep home and hi-jacked his truck? :)

oooop you got me! (keep it a secret)haha


ewurm;1459449; said:
That is ridiculously awesome. Skip the the Pima, get something more manageable.

nahh; i already reserved a baby pirarucu, it's always been my dream to keep one. but i probably would never be able to heat a 50' pond in Japan so decided to get a tank.
luckily i made friends with a public aquarium owner in Japan, it's in Ikebukuro. He said that he'll take them in once mine get bigger!!
so i'll probably be able to keep him for a year or two...depending on growth rate

a school of neon tetras in a planted tank would be relaxing wouldn't it? oh, i already have that tank theme.lol


2004exrider;1459451; said:
That thing is way to small, you'll be lucky to even fit one female betta in there:screwy: haha. Cant wait to see this thing filled up, please keep us updated! That is very cool!

Jimmy

true. very true. in the wild betta have a whole rice patty to themselves.
i mean if you think about it in reality; keeping fish is kinda cruel, in the wild they have a whole lake or river to themselves.
nothing would satisfy a fish in captivity.
if i were a baby great white or bluefin tuna, i would think monterey bay aquarium's one million gallon tank is tiny.


Gr8KarmaSF;1459468; said:
Very nice....cant wait to help you setup!!!

LOL

oh i wish you can help me with the tank...it's just that it's in Japan.lol long ways from the bay area.


tunerX;1459718; said:
That was several grand just in filters.

would have been around $6,500. but i did get a couple K's off for buying so much at the same time.


pdbrady;1459785; said:
Dayuuuum! The cans are going to take up as much space as the tank itself! Very clean!

the whole point.lol


tapeworm;1459800; said:
Thats what I thought when I saw the tank picture. Not to mention the cost of them, you probably could have had 2 complete set ups like that one in the picture with sumps!

i already have enough setups.
i am not allowed to buy anymore for a loooong time. so i heck why not get 20 eheim filters?


hotfishgirls;1459841; said:
money to burn,must be nice.Great tank,silly filtration

the electricity bills won't make too much of a difference. filters don't take up too much energy. the heaters do, but they barely turn on



Mystix212;1459862; said:
I think of is as a waste of resources.

There is far more efficent filtration available on the market or a fraction of the cost.


that's your personal opinion.
as the owner of the tank and filters, i think it's lovely to have 20filters in the cabinet


OscartheGrouch;1459870; said:
Give us the heads up when you're selling those filters.

i will not be selling any of my filters.


cichlaguapote;1459887; said:
I just thought about trying to plug in 20 canister filters.. UGH..

powerstations and extension cords are the way to go. and then mess up with the wires a bit as to not have your house shut down from having so many filters running at once


devlyyn;1460012; said:
Pretty sweet tank, I know all of us are jealous.

I would have personally gone for a sump instead, but hey, it's your tank so more power to ya! Keep us updated with stocking choices.

yes keyword "jealous"

i think that's what most people that are telling me it's a pointless to have 20 eheim filters running.


Stone Like Fish;1460073; said:
Lol, you guys are all saying "i would of gone with sump" but thats probably because your so envious and can't afford those filters...(me included, but i see nothing wrong with the filtration. Like, have oyu ever seen it done before?)


yes thanks for being a nice guy, again i think the people that are telling me it's stupid are just plain jealous.

well, i worked hard to buy this set up so please do not insult me.



Tsunamiboy77;1460099; said:
great tank. i would fill it up with some baby silers and grow them, but thats just me. whats the 3rd picure of the silver and green things?

it's the eheim trademark tubing and the output spraybar

WyldFya;1460192; said:
Eheim canisters are not good at mech filtration, which is what is the primary bulk of filter cleaning. My eheims don't get cleans very often at all, they don't need it.

that's 'cause you're using the sponges that came with the filter.

and plus filters don't do too much mechanical filtration. it just gets pushed into the gravel.


WyldFya;1460203; said:
I can afford that pretty easily, I have a several filters that are more expensive than the 2080. The point isn't that he has money to throw around, but rather that he has wasted a lot of money where it could have been spent on more realistic things.


if you can afford "that" pretty easily, i would like to see you do the same thing.
i worked hard for this and don't like it when you say "wasted a lot of money"

i don't care what you think, again it's my money.
and again it has been my dream to pack a cabinet with canister filters.
and again i do not know how to use sumps or whatever...
 
I am in no way downing what you are doing, nor your choice of filter, but you are wasting the majority of it. The way filtration works, you will be fine with just 6 of them. The surface area inside one 2080 will be enough to house a huge amount of bacteria. Your statement above about the higher number of filters filtering out the ammonia faster is wrong. The bacteria colony will be the same size whether you run 6, 10, 15 or 20 of those filters. The colony cannot exceed the amount of ammonia your fish produce on average. You are right in that it doesn't match, or even compare to natures filters, and if you think that, then you should have gone the natural way. My 135 can run weeks with no ammonia showing up in a discus tank that gets fed 6-8 times daily and no filter running. You'd be much better off selling off 4-6 of those filters at full retail price, and using the remaining 14-16 filters split between multiple other tanks. Run 6 or if you really want it 8 filters on your big tank, but use the other filters with an actual purpose.
 
ccdoido38;1460347; said:
that's 'cause you're using the sponges that came with the filter.

and plus filters don't do too much mechanical filtration. it just gets pushed into the gravel.

Wrong. Eheim's in general are not good mech filters, their flow rates are not designed for mechanical filtration. Filters are the best at mechanical filtration, that is the primary function of most HOB filters. If you are worried about detritus getting caught up in the gravel, a simple solution is a powerhead blowing across the bottom, or a reverse flow UGF. Mech filtration is at it's best using close cell foams. Even the most basic foam filter will do a great job mechanically filtering your water. A Hydro 5 run with a powerhead will do much more than a eheim 2080 packed with foam for mechanical filtration.
 
ccdoido38;1460347; said:
if you can afford "that" pretty easily, i would like to see you do the same thing.
i worked hard for this and don't like it when you say "wasted a lot of money"

I wouldn't do that because I see it as a waste of money. Why spend all that money on filters that won't even have 1/1000 of the bacteria that it can actually hold?
 
:banhim: thats all i have to say.... Oh and WyldFya.... Can i buy your book? Not making fun of u i just love u man! Oh and what is the price for all those filters? not even a sump if i had that money i would get a massive pool filter. or some thing along those lines.
 
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