NO FEDOR FOR UFC

[cichlaguapote]

Trying to compare Fedor's record and Brock's record is baffling.
Even if you think that Fedor hasn't had decent opponents (which I think is false) his record still dwarfs Brock's.
I think that Brock is very good, right now. I'm not one to take the mma purist view and say "well, he needs to train more" or whatever, right now, he is very good. Having said that, Fedor is much better. He has the record on his side, not Brock. Brock hasn't fought anywhere near the guys that Fedor has, it's as simple as that.
I would love to see them fight, but the reality of Fedor never coming to the UFC is a reality that mma fans may have to just live with.

Also, while a lot of the blame can be put on Fedor and more specifically his management, I can't fault Fedor that much because like it was said before, whether Brock, Dana, the UFC, like it or not, it is Fedor who has nothing to prove. He is already the greatest pound for pound fighter in the world. Not to mention, Fedor uses his prominence to get other guys that he trains with fights, and exposure. He is a patriotic man, and while I wish he was more of a business man, I can't say that I might not do some of the same things that he does.

Word..

until your doing it fulltime and being paid for it.... your just a person with a bad business plan..... no offense.....

LMAO

Anyone who thinks Fedor is over and done or "was good" is kidding themselves.

 

[hamato_yoshii]

from the start i have always said that fedor is better in my eyes .. and i think it would be a boring fight .. all .. 30 sec it would take fedor to kill him.. but he has to do it first ... as of right now brock is .. like it or not .. he fights top guys .. fedor does not ..

i would be hard pressed to say there is another more dominant fighter then fedor .. even anderson silva or GSP (which is dont like but he is a ****ing stud) and miguel (who is a joy to watch because he is so good) and to put lesnar in the same category as them is sad at best .. but he is taking fights and winning .. so i guess by default .. since there is not anyone out there to beat him .. he gets it for now..

I still don't put him in there with those guys because all of their records dwarf his. He has so few fights, and while he looks great, so do GSP, Miguel, Silva, Fedor, and they have looked good for a extended period of time.
Plus, with the exception of Coture, I'm still not sure that Brock has fought a top notch opponent. We'll see what happens when he fights Cain...

 

[Anubisscott]

Honestly, for those who say Fedor has nothing to prove and is "ONE OF THE BEST" I'll agree. For those who say that he "IS THE BEST" currently and has nothing to prove your my friends are wrong. He may have been the best a few years ago, but he has only fought X champs that fell off the train long ago in the past years. I hate calling people washed up, but Tim and Andrea.....Please. Both have only been as high in the ranks because the heavyweight division is thin. Lets not forget what Randy did to Tim to win the belt, it wasen't even close. And Andrea after his second fight with Tim just wasen't the same fighter. So again, "one of the best yes", as "the best" he goes further down the polls as legitiment contenders and ranked fighters go to the UFC. Slam Lesnar all you want, but one thing I respect is he will fight anyone any time and asked to fight the best right off the bat. He will get more fights to where we can actually compare records. Especially if Fedor whats to stay in the "D" company's and fight nobodies and has beens. And again for the record, I don't like Lesnar.

Also, for the coment about having lesnar go to the M1. Thats like someone in th NFL going back to highschool to play football. REDICULOUS. M1 isen't even as good as Elite XC. Lesnar is already in the Biggest, most successful MMA company "EVER", why go anywhere else. I don't mind people calling Fedor "One of the Best", but as time goes by if your going to still call him "THE BEST" then by all means everyone is entitled to their opinion........even if their wrong.

 

[Iffrat]

Honestly, for those who say Fedor has nothing to prove and is "ONE OF THE BEST" I'll agree. For those who say that he "IS THE BEST" currently and has nothing to prove your my friends are wrong. He may have been the best a few years ago, but he has only fought X champs that fell off the train long ago in the past years. I hate calling people washed up, but Tim and Andrea.....Please. Both have only been as high in the ranks because the heavyweight division is thin. Lets not forget what Randy did to Tim to win the belt, it wasen't even close. And Andrea after his second fight with Tim just wasen't the same fighter. So again, "one of the best yes", as "the best" he goes further down the polls as legitiment contenders and ranked fighters go to the UFC. Slam Lesnar all you want, but one thing I respect is he will fight anyone any time and asked to fight the best right off the bat. He will get more fights to where we can actually compare records. Especially if Fedor whats to stay in the "D" company's and fight nobodies and has beens. And again for the record, I don't like Lesnar.

Also, for the coment about having lesnar go to the M1. Thats like someone in th NFL going back to highschool to play football. REDICULOUS. M1 isen't even as good as Elite XC. Lesnar is already in the Biggest, most successful MMA company "EVER", why go anywhere else. I don't mind people calling Fedor "One of the Best", but as time goes by if your going to still call him "THE BEST" then by all means everyone is entitled to their opinion........even if their wrong.

its like saying Mark Coleman is the best 205 in the sport .. now in his day he was .. and to say he is the best he would have to come back and win fights against the best .. and then earn it back .. kinda like fedor .. he needs to come back and earn it back .. which he is has not done .. say all you want.. but guys in the hall of fame are not the best anymore .. but they where the best ..

to my original statement .. I LOVE FADOR!!! but you have to beat the best to be the best .. and right now .. thats lesnar .. so to PROVE he IS the best right now .. thats what he has to do..

 

[pwmin]

Dana and Vadim are self-righteous pricks and that i why they can't make a deal. If I was Fedor, though, I wouldn't want to have a boss that thought I was overrated and was "a f'in joke".

 

[pwmin]

but you have to beat the best to be the best .. and right now .. thats lesnar

are you freaking kidding me? Fedor is the best in the world. Name one ranking system that has Lesnar rated over Fedor...not that I take them verbatim

 

[swede]

typical UFC fan boy ...

its not dana that is the problem here its fedor (fwi I HATE DANA WHITE).. he is dodging the fights ... he wont come to the ufc because he will not stand up to his manager.. would be payed better and allowed to support whatever he wants .. there is no reason for him not to come to the ufc even if its for a few fights only .. just to prove him self .. there has to be a reason .. just because he never loses does not mean he is the best.. looks to me like he is scared of being shown up so he only take fights with washed up has beens and people who are well below his class.. (btw i still think pound for pound he is the best but that is starting to drop because his lack of fighting top quality fighters) when you look at fighters like anderson silva who will fight people in another weight class just to have some copitition and fedor wont fight for WAY more money ... it looks really bad..

take a look outside the box of the UFC and see whats really going on .. look at fighting as a whole .. people like crocop having a hard time in the UFC .. and even hendo ... everyone would have thought he would have walked thru the ufc .. maybe fedor does not want the same thing to happen to him ..

fedor has beat many of the ufc's former champions, and i really doubt that fedor is dodging the ufc. i think you hit the nail on the head with his manager, who is also co-owner and president of m-1 (how is that even legal?) so who knows that he even got the whole story about the offers that ufc was offering? you have a language barrier there too, and his manager speaks both english and russian..... how convenient for him.

 

[KMKN]

to me pride is the best but i think UFC is starting to get just as good as pride

 

[swede]

can i just point out that in 5 fights, BROCK HAS ALREADY LOST! Fedor has had 32 wins, and only one loss in which he received a cut above his eye that prevented him from seeing, prompting the fight to be ended. Brock doesn't even deserve to be in the same thread as fedor unless its to say "Brock VS Fedor". Brock can't even spell MMA.........

 

[KMKN]

Trying to compare Fedor's record and Brock's record is baffling.
Even if you think that Fedor hasn't had decent opponents (which I think is false) his record still dwarfs Brock's.
I think that Brock is very good, right now. I'm not one to take the mma purist view and say "well, he needs to train more" or whatever, right now, he is very good. Having said that, Fedor is much better. He has the record on his side, not Brock. Brock hasn't fought anywhere near the guys that Fedor has, it's as simple as that.
I would love to see them fight, but the reality of Fedor never coming to the UFC is a reality that mma fans may have to just live with.

Also, while a lot of the blame can be put on Fedor and more specifically his management, I can't fault Fedor that much because like it was said before, whether Brock, Dana, the UFC, like it or not, it is Fedor who has nothing to prove. He is already the greatest pound for pound fighter in the world. Not to mention, Fedor uses his prominence to get other guys that he trains with fights, and exposure. He is a patriotic man, and while I wish he was more of a business man, I can't say that I might not do some of the same things that he does.