Hey guys so i have been changing the water more frequent and he has stopped flipping out for no reason but i found another weird behavior. I really don't think it is bad but i have just put in some rocks like a ramp and stuff and he swims up the rocks and sort of glides down. He is also near the bubbles sometimes. Not much but i have seen him do it. I think he is just playing but want to make sure. He still eats and acts normal though.
Normal ray behavior
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Yep this is normal. I'm glad you are taking our advice and I'm glad you are feeding him so well.
Thanks guys and i am not sure if i can get a picture up. Maybe in a little bit though. My camera charger broke so i used up all the power and ... dead. Maybe in a couple of weeks i'll post pics
If your 320g is setup and filtrated and running why aren’t the ray and jardini moved over?... Why are you housing pacu? Go return them to whoever sold them to you before you wind up being one of those people on marketplace trying to get rid of their pacu that’s overstocked and in poor health.
You have 550$ to spend on a tank but don’t have 120$ for a solid mag drive pump and 30$ for the materials to put together a solid drawer design w/d tote sump? If you aren’t even willing to spend 70-170$ on filtration why are you trying to keep motoro rays and jardini arowanas and all these expensive large fish and set up a 320g tank? You do realize 320g tanks aren’t cheap right? 70-170$ is chump change when it comes to setting up such a large tank.Ik the RTC would grow out but never knew the ray wouldsad. Oh well so wat about a 320? Found one on craigslist for 550 dollars, with 1 filter and 1 heater. I have 2 heaters right know that i could transport and also 2 40-60 gallon filters. The one the lady has was a 100 gallon filter (which i somehow never found before.)
I’d love to know what you think “normal” and “perfect” is for your water conditions. I haven't seen an actual ppm reading results posted in this entire thread on your water's actual perimeters. I seriously doubt w/ bi weekly wc your water conditions are in a healthy range. Why do you keep saying “water chemicals are normal?” Btw 50% wc a week isn’t really that much. A more realistic wc would be 70-80% weekly for fish that produce a heavy bioload and from my understanding rays do produce heavy bioloads.
You would know if your water was getting worse or even in healthy conditions if you know how to read a chemical test kit and were remotely knowledgeable about the nitrogen cycle that takes place in your aquarium. You don’t seem to know the first thing about keeping these non novice fish, or how the nitrogen cycle works (or even possibly what it is) and water perimeters.
Seriously, do yourself and the fish a favor and return them all and do some research on fishkeeping, read an article on the nitrogen cycle, what it is and how it works in your aquarium, start with something more beginner, and LEARN before you jump into something head first without knowing anything about it. This isn’t meant to be harsh but after reading this whole thread and a few of your others this is ridiculous…
wow um i have been researching a lot, i am just a kid, perfect water is for me all neutral in chemicals and PH is 7.6. My dad flipped wen i tryed moving the ray and yanked the net out of my hand and put him back and yelled at me and told me to wait till later wen he outgrows the tank cause he doesn't want to deal with it now. So i am housing pacus, oscars and tinfoil barbs in there for the time being. And i love fish and try to study as much as possible. Can only get information online and most of the time there is different standards so i try going in the middle. And ya. The Sump idea and everything is up to my dad and his money. I already spent enough of my money buying the fish, aro, ray, and the filters, sand and whole setup. Now i asked him to buy a pump and he says no so i got screwed. So now i am stuck with 2, 40-70 gallon filters. WC is my choice so i bumped it up.
Well said. The only thing you have right is nutrition.
As far as perfect water, you need an API liquid master test kit and figure out what your ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate readings are.
You need to do a water change when nitrates are high, and ammonia and nitrite should be 0.
As far as perfect water, you need an API liquid master test kit and figure out what your ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate readings are.
You need to do a water change when nitrates are high, and ammonia and nitrite should be 0.
"I'm just a kid so its okay." Keeping arowana and stingrays isn't a kids hobby, collecting baseball cards is. And when the pacu outgrow the 320g and they are in poor health and horribly overstocked and you don't have your Dad's money to spend on a tank over 500g and the LFS won't take them, let me guess, "I'm just a kid." Or when the Jardini shreds the motoro or the O or Pacu once put together. If you have no control over your own pets and can't fund them properly then you shouldn't have them. "I have a dog but I can't afford dog food but it's okay I'm just a kid."
If you'd done "a lot of research" muffywrx wouldn't have to explain something like this to you. Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, water changes, the nitrogen cycle are pretty much fishkeeping 101.
EDIT: Oh, and you didn't get screwed by your Dad, you screwed yourself when you purchased the tank and fish without being able to fund the rest of the setup. Why do you expect your Dad to just give you his money? Kids... So you're running a 320g with two filters that at max can turnover a 70 gallon tank and it's stocked with O, Pacu, and Tinfoils? That's just great.
If you'd done "a lot of research" muffywrx wouldn't have to explain something like this to you. Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, water changes, the nitrogen cycle are pretty much fishkeeping 101.
EDIT: Oh, and you didn't get screwed by your Dad, you screwed yourself when you purchased the tank and fish without being able to fund the rest of the setup. Why do you expect your Dad to just give you his money? Kids... So you're running a 320g with two filters that at max can turnover a 70 gallon tank and it's stocked with O, Pacu, and Tinfoils? That's just great.
