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He said he'd follow up on the northfin debacle. He seemed to be getting to the bottom of things but I haven't seen anything from him.

I haven't heard from him about that but shortly after I heard about the NF 333 EQ result, I considered having lab tests performed on two brands .. NF cichlid and an NLS product. But I soon began to feel differently about that.

RD. RD. summed it up perfectly. I remember him posting something like "Why would I pay for a test to tell me what I already know?" :D That's exactly how I feel. I know NF contains EQ regardless of their claims. So I would pay $90 for the test, $15 for the food plus the shipping & handling and then get a test telling me that NF cichlid contains EQ at ~100-150 ppm. No thanks.

And if it were only ethoxyquin that would be one thing. There's also BHA & BHT ... what about those levels? They should also matter if they're harmful .. the same as ethoxyquin. That's too much independent testing for me.
 
One of the first lab reports I saw posted was either for the community formula, or cichlid, I honestly don't recall. But I do remember the EQ level, 159 ppm. That lab report was removed from the forum before I could capture the image. The next one I saw was for the Krill Pro, at 333 ppm. That lab report along with another report showing 212 ppm (for Krill Pro) is posted on page 1.

Authentic, accurate, or just someone who has created all of this using fake lab reports, fake employee signatures, etc. Hmmmmm.

But someone that's creating "reviews" and posting them on their website for the world to read should have known better, and should have verified some of the info that he was posting on his website, BEFORE presenting that information as being fact. Of course some people are now going to feel let down, because they have come to the same conclusion about NF being preservative free as myself and others. Yet there's that glowing 6 star review by kmuda, as though none of this matters. That's not how kmuda was talking in some of his past comments in this discussion. He was talking as though he was going to make things right, and have his own independent lab tests performed. Not exactly the actions of the truth seeker that he comes across as.
 
Maybe he's waiting until he comes up with the dough to test all the foods on the market.
 
Im always trying to find a good fish food instead of NLS but like Diesel hybrid said, it's really in its own catagory as thr best food. Nothing comes close to it. Northfin tried and couldn't do it.
 
The main Orijen manufacturing plant (Champion Pet Food) is a couple of hours north of me, and I have been feeding their food to my dogs for many years. Great Food! Having said that it is NOT advisable to feed dog or cat food to fish, even if it is fish based. As an example, in that cat formula the crude fat content is 20% (min), which outside of some cold water trout/salmon, is FAR to rich to be feeding to warm water tropical species. Just stick to fish food .....
Neil, everyone knows raw is the best for dog/cats hahahaha
 
Maybe he's waiting until he comes up with the dough to test all the foods on the market.

Maybe? Maybe he's fallen ill, or had other real life issues to deal with? I have no idea.
 
I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt to kmuda, but it appears that he has finally spoken, in the safety and security of his own forum, and he is apparently just as clueless today, as he was when he was first introduced to this situation.

I don't know the person who posted the following on his forum, but they appear to be a long term member in good standing of kmuda's forum.


"There is a degree of greed associated with most who are trying to make their way in this world. Greed will cause well intentioned people to bend their principles and ethics. It's difficult, amongst a large constituency of reasonable people, to identify a clear line where shrewd, opportunistic business practices bleed into the realm of being unethical.

Based on the information available to me at this point, I believe Darius Chodocinskas' marketing practices crossed the line of shrewd and opportunistic and became unethical. I believe he either encouraged or endorsed his marketing team to intentionally mislead consumers who were wanting an ethoxyquin free fish food by systematically providing misinformation in hopes it would garner him more business. As a result, I don't find him, or anyone he employs to advance his interests, a credible source of information. I no longer base my product acquisition decisions on any information Darius or his agents provide to the marketplace."


Thank god somebody gets it.


Kmuda would have everyone believing Northfin really did not claim anything else others have claimed in that they work under the belief that if they are not adding it then they don't have to claim it. Those were his exact words, and he couldn't be further from reality.The fact that others excluded EQ from their labels (this isn't some huge trade secret) is NOTHING like what Northfin has done.

Northfin stated on their website, and marketed this organic holistic type notion that their food is naturally preserved, and doesn't contain any preservatives or harmful chemicals to preserve it's products, to everyone and anyone that would listen. It was their way in to a very tight market.

In fact, even after everything that has taken place, Northfin is still promoting their products this way.

http://www.canadian-aquatic-feed.com/?page_id=34

"NorthFin Premium Fish Foods does not use any preservatives or harmful chemicals to preserve its product line.

The combination of certain ingredients/vitamins, along with the drying process itself allows the foods to be naturally preserved".


Unlike what kmuda states, this is not at all like what any other fish food manufacturer has done. Not the likes of NLS, Hikari, Omega, Ocean Nutrition, Xtreme, Cobalt, Tetra, Wardleys, Purina, or anyone else. Not even from pet fish foods manufactured in China!

To the best of my knowledge no other manufacturer of pet fish food in the free world has ever marketed their products as being *preservative free* while in the same breath using knee jerk anti-green terminology such as *harmful chemicals* to describe any form of preservative outside of their so called organic holistic brand.

That's the part of this equation that our dear friend kmuda has failed to grasp. They sold him a sheet sandwich, and he's still eating it.





 
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Not to jump to unfair conclusions, but it seems a bit "curiouser and curiouser" (to quote the book) for someone who postured as something of an EQ crusader.

My theory re: NF is if this was more of a public issue (as opposed to a topic on a few forums) or had put a dent in their sales, we'd hear more from them. I'm guessing it hasn't, hence the time honored policy of business as usual.
 
I have a bag of northfin that is over year old and is perfectly fine..... Preservative free? Lol
 
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