Geez, really sad it's getting nigh impossible to have a measured, adult like conversation around here, esp in the Lounge. This is esp. true with people who have their little cliques...If you're not in that clique, or that clique happens to not like you, watch out...truth.
But oh well, I guess it's a reflection of society nowadays, esp. in the US, where the 2 main 'sides' hate each other so much they can't even sit down to really discuss, calmly exchange ideas and work things out.
And no baiting here, just exercising my right to reply to other comments, if you just want to shoot and run that's your prerogative buddy, have a nice day.