The only one thing I can agree with you is your opinion and it's just an opinion, not a solid fact. And free your fish from your aquariums too.
Orca seriously injured at seaworld
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Dude... in what other ways would you like me to explain my stance on the territory/roamer thing? I really dont think I could make it any clearer. Maybe you should go for an MRI or CAT scan or something, because you dont seem to be able to understand my argument 
You're probably one of those people who accuses everyone who mentions "animal rights" as being in PETA.
You're probably one of those people who accuses everyone who mentions "animal rights" as being in PETA.
what we do and what is the right thing to do is two different things.. fish are considered pets... and because they are our pets we try our best to give them the best home aquariaums we can. Of course not always are the fish kept in these idealistic tanks.. so yes some aquarium fish are also not going to prosper from being kept in the home aquarium , their life span maybe longer but their quality of life is a trade off ...But whales are huge and need the open ocean waters to properly breed and thier behavior is definitly inhibited due to their size alone... kept in captivity they become moody and depressed and live a life going Against their natural nature.. ..
oh...just tell them to turn up the heat add some aquarium salt and put an eggcrate divider in the tank...lol
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
And here we go again with the comparison of an orca in captivity to a cichlid. Didn't we go through this just a few months ago?
More then a few months ago but yeah we've been there done that on this topic. Still hearing the same hypocrite arguments
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Suggesting that beliefs on captive suitability for all species must be static across the board, to avoid hypocrisy is so simplistic as to appear hypocritical in itself - or at the least disingenuous - as if we don't ALL make housing and care decisions based on species differences. Learning and suggesting care according to each species is why most people are on the site in the first place.
Cetaceans need a lot of both free and structured (by them, not us) interaction and exploration with a group of their own kind in a complex natural environment, to mature properly. We can't provide anything near that in captivity, anymore than our own child could be provided what they need from an alien species that knows little about us.
Humans that don't get regular interaction and upbringing from their own kind demonstrate stunted mental growth, reasoning, and reduced ability to learn language, social, and problem solving skills later on, so why must it be different for another similarly intelligent, social, and physically active mammal?
Thriving in comparison to? It has been demonstrated through scientific research and observation that cetaceans in captivity often have physical, mental and social shortcomings that aren't the norm in their wild counterparts. Whether you believe that's even an ethical issue or not, those things have been observed. And that's only through what can be understood, since we really don't know enough to get the whole picture.
Breeding isn't a complete indication of happiness or health. Many organisms find a way to procreate despite the odds, and it's a strong natural drive to live and procreate. People in desolate starving African countries still manage to do it without the help of scientists and special caregivers.
Cetaceans need a lot of both free and structured (by them, not us) interaction and exploration with a group of their own kind in a complex natural environment, to mature properly. We can't provide anything near that in captivity, anymore than our own child could be provided what they need from an alien species that knows little about us.
Humans that don't get regular interaction and upbringing from their own kind demonstrate stunted mental growth, reasoning, and reduced ability to learn language, social, and problem solving skills later on, so why must it be different for another similarly intelligent, social, and physically active mammal?
Thriving in comparison to? It has been demonstrated through scientific research and observation that cetaceans in captivity often have physical, mental and social shortcomings that aren't the norm in their wild counterparts. Whether you believe that's even an ethical issue or not, those things have been observed. And that's only through what can be understood, since we really don't know enough to get the whole picture.
Breeding isn't a complete indication of happiness or health. Many organisms find a way to procreate despite the odds, and it's a strong natural drive to live and procreate. People in desolate starving African countries still manage to do it without the help of scientists and special caregivers.
Dude... in what other ways would you like me to explain my stance on the territory/roamer thing? I really dont think I could make it any clearer. Maybe you should go for an MRI or CAT scan or something, because you dont seem to be able to understand my argument
You're probably one of those people who accuses everyone who mentions "animal rights" as being in PETA.
wow. someone can spell MRI and CAT scan, just like neurologists.
but kindergartners can do that too. and throw dirt @PPL when that's all they have.
