Police shoot restrained dog *petition*

[bl00dr0ck]

There's way too much here that's left to hearsay. For all we know, the person with the kid is terrified of dogs and takes any action as threatening. Or maybe the dog did act vicious. Who knows. However, once the pole was around the dogs neck, the situation should have been over. Wait a minute til the dog calms again put it in the truck. I've seen much smaller animal control officers deal with far larger and more agitated animals with one of these poles. This petition is worthless because as has been stated, there is no real point to it. I don't agree with some of your reasoning Brian, because at the point that the shooting happened, there was no reason for deadly force, pretty much like shooting a suspect once he's handcuffed and in the car. Just my thoughts on the matter.​

 

[_Jessica_]

I see so if it attacked and killed the little girl then you would be alright with shooting the dog. How about if it only bit here nose off, probably not worth shooting then, hugh?

What about the officers ssafety You tthink that white pole was going to stop that dog from attacking if it so chose too?

Right to fair trial, innocent until proven guilty...however you look at it, there were NO injuries, the dog did not attack anyone, it was not acting violent. Dog language can be misinterpreted..and given the fact that it did not cause injury, that cop had no right to shoot it. You honestly don't see anything wrong with that video?

Your right, since they were not trained in handling a vicious dog they should have left it until animal control arrived, right? Of course the dog coulkd of again escaped of the leash holding it and attacked someone else, but at least the officers would have been witin there scope of work.

The dog was not struggling on the leash...he actually layed down while they were trying to figure out what to do. Let's say your 5 year old is running around, and someone says he is trying to stab people with a knife (similar mindset as a dog, right?). An officer goes to get the child, they don't see a knife, but the child struggles as he is put in handcuffs. So the officer shoots the child because he dosen't know what to do. But hey, he could have been stabbed, so it makes it right? Yeah I know I'll be flamed for this.

I'll bring this point up again. "Pay for this action" is not a specific enough call to action, which is the point of a petition.

Do you want the officers suspended? Do you want them trained properly so this action isn't repeated? Do you want them to replace the dog?

......Or do you just want to raise a stink with no real outcome?

Not trying to be a dick just giving some constructive criticism so the chances of success are increased.

A calm and pointedletter to the city of LaGrange would be more effective than a petition, agreed.

 

[Bderick67]

In the cops mind shooting the dog was justified. Iff all he wanted to do was shoot the dog why even get out the white pole? He followed through with the training he had, considering he had access to this pole makes me question if there is even animal control officers available for the situation. Once the officer had the dog on the pole it was his belief that he still could not control the dog, so the next step is to put the dog down. Becasue of his actions no persons were hurt by this animal.

I would rather question if shooting the dog was necessary, then to question why the dog wasn't shot in the event some poor kid was mauled to death.

 

[Bderick67]

Right to fair trial, innocent until proven guilty...however you look at it, there were NO injuries, the dog did not attack anyone, it was not acting violent. Dog language can be misinterpreted..and given the fact that it did not cause injury, that cop had no right to shoot it. You honestly don't see anything wrong with that video?

WTF, were in the world, better yet our constitution, does it state an animal has a right to a fair trial It's owner does, the dog does not.

The dog was not struggling on the leash...he actually layed down while they were trying to figure out what to do. Let's say your 5 year old is running around, and someone says he is trying to stab people with a knife (similar mindset as a dog, right?). An officer goes to get the child, they don't see a knife, but the child struggles as he is put in handcuffs. So the officer shoots the child because he dosen't know what to do. But hey, he could have been stabbed, so it makes it right? Yeah I know I'll be flamed for this.

Your logic is nonsense. To even try to compare this hypothetical scenario to this actual event is moronic at best



A calm and pointedletter to the city of LaGrange would be more effective than a petition, agreed.

 

[Bderick67]

There's way too much here that's left to hearsay. For all we know, the person with the kid is terrified of dogs and takes any action as threatening. Or maybe the dog did act vicious. Who knows. However, once the pole was around the dogs neck, the situation should have been over. Wait a minute til the dog calms again put it in the truck. I've seen much smaller animal control officers deal with far larger and more agitated animals with one of these poles. This petition is worthless because as has been stated, there is no real point to it. I don't agree with some of your reasoning Brian, because at the point that the shooting happened, there was no reason for deadly force, pretty much like shooting a suspect once he's handcuffed and in the car. Just my thoughts on the matter.​

If the suspect is handcuffed and placed within the car but still poses a treat to the officers or the cop car there are more steps that can be taken, such as hog trying the suspect, right? What was this officers next step when he rationalized that he still could not control the dog? Again I question whether there is any animal control, why did the cop have this poll? Was there even a truck to transport in? Or were they to use there patrol car?

 

[Bottomfeeder]

I'm pro-cop. But this is freaking ridiculous Sickening. Ignorant people...


Good gosh... the dog wasn't even moving when he shot it. And did he seriously kill it for resisting/biting the catch pole?? That's SUPPOSED to happen... the catch pole is padded so the dog can bite it!!! Stupid cop. Sick **** should be thrown in jail and hopefully beaten senseless. What a pathetic excuse for a human being. POS.

 

[Astus]

Your logic is nonsense. To even try to compare this hypothetical scenario to this actual event is moronic at best

Uhmm.... Seems logical to me actually. The child reported to be attempting to stab others would be similar to the dog attempting to attack the child/mother. Both are also calm when they arrive and do not struggle until after being UNDER CONTROL. Which by the way is the whole point of the pole or hand cuffs, to put them under control so the officers if not being able to manage them in the first place can manage them more easily after the pole or hand cuffs are applied.

If they really were that untrained and needed assistance from Animal Control they could have called Animal Control and left the dog on the original leash. While waiting until they arrived they could have sat, watched the dog, and shot if it attempted to attack one of the officers or escape(from the leash it was calm on and even decided to lay down while controlled by it). Instead of getting it under control and then shooting it?

 

[Neervana]

sad that they shot her... she seemed really scared... couldnt watch the rest of the vid.. i felt too upset when i saw them trying to noose her...

 

[Blue2Fyre]

I honestly could not watch the video. It's so sad.

SO many times dogs are misread by people who do not understand them. Many dog bites happen due to miscommunication. This dog did not hurt anyone. Once the kid was inside the dog calmed down and the mother was able to tie it up. Do you honestly believe a "vicious" dog would let that happen? Many dogs are afraid of children and will act if they feel threatened. I wasn't there so I can't say for sure. But considering there was NO injury this did not need to end like this. Even the mother of the kid felt bad.

This dog should have been taken to a shelter and things would have been fine. There a temperament test could be given and things could be set straight as to whether this dog was aggressive or not.

No one witnessed the original "aggression" so who is to say how the dog was actually behaving. I've heard plenty of people refer to dogs playing as dogs fighting. Sometimes their behavior can be misread by people who are not educated in dog behavior. Plus I hate to say it but this was a "pitt bull" looking dog and so many people seem to believe right off that makes them aggressive (which it doesn't).

 

[Bottomfeeder]

^^ TRUE on so many levels. Dog body language is so different than human body language.

And I agree that whoever reported the dog as being vicious is probably a dog-o-phobe. There is a surprising number of people who are. You'd be amazed how many people shy away from, or even run from, my 26 lb Italian Greyhound/Shorthair Fox Terrier mix. Does that dog in the video look vicious to you???
That video pisses me off so much. That dog wasn't acting any different than any dog that's ever caught on a catch pole