Purposely Overstock to Sell . Right or Wrong
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ThaDude;3741180; said:
as if the "others" can't get them from the seller themselves?
jcardona1;3741187; said:
indeed, that money makes the world go round. and thats when we sell them after we've at least attempted to give it a good home, thats when you get to earn a lil bit for ur effort. BUT NOT selling immediately, and earning money, thats unethical as a responsible fish KEEPER.
well....I agree with both sides. Yes people can make money of it and make others have fishes they want at a good price.......but it doesn't do this specie of fish any good if it's being harvested in a HUGE AMOUNT. Like by the thousands easily. I know he didn't mention any fish but i know they are at least taking 4000+ indo dats out of the wild EASILY. I wasn't in the hobby when wide bar dats were banned so don't flame me if I'm wrong but didn't they get banned because the population was low from being taken out of the wild in such large amounts?
jcardona1;3741193; said:who are you, me, or anybody else to say that they should or shouldnt? this is a classic case of "mind your own damn business"
im just a young guy who wanna discuss the well being of some fish when fish keepers are unethically buying and selling immediately . fish are being moved around and around instead of from the seller to the keeper. that causes a lot of stress and perhaps death.
ThaDude;3741202; said:
not saying it is wrong to resale a fish after you've attempt to keep it. but buying and selling immediately, thats business. Not what a fish keeper should depend on.
Dragon Hunter;3741206; said:
for those of you who just want me to give up and stop discussing whats right or wrong IMO. then i have a quote for all of you ( credit to j)
can't tell me to stop just because you are disagreeing with what i say. you can choose to follow this thread or not . im not pointing a gun at you to follow this thread.jcardona1;3741193; said:who are you, me, or anybody else to say that they should or shouldnt? this is a classic case of "mind your own damn business"
so once again,
the question is
Is it ethical FOR A HOBBYIST/FISH KEEPER to overstock and sell IMMEDIATELY FOR PROFIT ?
for reference :
hobbyist/fish keeper = person who KEEPS fish because they love the fish, not for business
immediately for profit= only for the purpose earning money (NOT for the reason of rescuing/ saving fish OR growout and handpicking the ones you like and selling the rest off)
i stand firm that hobbyist should not be a businessman , meaning , when buying, they should not have the intention of selling immediately , turning over and making some money. UBT they are allow to sell when they buy, they have the intention to give it a good home, and follow through with it, until they are incapable of doing so, and selling to give it a better home( and with a reasonable amount of "profit" thats not really profit , just to cover the cost and maintenance)
stevenrox;3741234; said:
i was talking about this in general , but the indos is a good example of what i mean. hobbyist, being businessmen, trying to make profit, i think thats quite irresponsible to the fish. collector , distributor, wholesaler, retailer, they are trying to make a living, and fish are lost on those levels already. on our level, shouldn't we be the one taking care of the fish, instead of causing all these unnecessary death on the moves when we are doing so much reselling? shouldn't we care more about the effort the people that have brought us these fish alive for us to enjoy. Arent u ashame that being a hobbyist, you r letting those people's effort go in vain , while trying to make a few bucks and risking the fish's life?
and sorta a side topic somewhat related to this , referring to stevenrox post, if indos r being treated like this, this could possibly lead to another dat extinction( in the wild) just like the widebar. thousands r being taken from the wild, as hobbyist, we should treat every single one of them PRECIOUSLY instead of selling and buying them as products .
pupumole;3741280; said:
I agree they shouldn't be "products" but should be pets. It also depends on the type of fish and what situation they are in. Another example would be like feeder guppies they are easy to breed and used as food for other fishes. Are feeder guppies or feeder fish in general not a living thing? Does the abundance of a fish make a difference? Also if they are planning on buying the fish and selling it back out to make a profit maybe they are taking VERY good care of the fishes. They could be providing better care then most people again. I think it you should feel "ashamed" if you buy a lot knowing you are unprepared or can't handle that much or it being a "hype".
i love how someone will defend something like this ... its like the movie 300 .. just wont give up ...
but remember what happened to the 300 in the end ...
sometimes its a fight that cannot be won ..
you seem to lack any real logic .. and thus .. pointless to to fight with you .. so .. good luck with you views .. maybe one day you will see how the world works .. and grow up ..
but remember what happened to the 300 in the end ...
sometimes its a fight that cannot be won ..
you seem to lack any real logic .. and thus .. pointless to to fight with you .. so .. good luck with you views .. maybe one day you will see how the world works .. and grow up ..
