Lol where they hell did I say they will all turn out high quality. I did say that having better quality parents decreases the change of getting crappy fish.
Red Texas frys from Thailand
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Lol no it doesn't ring any bells. Searched the thread, hell even used Ctrl F and could not find "high quality" on any of my post aside from post #31. Hell your the only one on this thread saying "High Quality" so I have no clue what the hell you are talking about. Your digging yourself a stupidity hole.......
Now a video I posted to show everyone the fry the OP was thinking of buying uses the the "Red Texas Fry High Quality" and I do I agree that the fry are high quality as you would have to be an idiot not to see it.
Yep, that would be the one. The same fry that the OP of this thread was enquiring about, which is what a portion of his questions & concerns involved. And you would have to be an idiot not to see that.
I'm guessing that you have probably never even seen a quality RT in person, let alone owned any, yet somehow you are suddenly some kind of a connoisseur on the grading & quality of juvie RT's? Okey dokey.
I'm quite certain that the OP will utilize all of the invaluable information that you have supplied in this discussion when weighing his options down the road.
Yes I have seen a masterpiece RT in real life but you don't have to own a fish to know how to grade them. But I could just as easily ask the same of you, wheres your "quality fish" that makes you an "expert" on the subject?
And the OP will probably not order but thats not the point, the point is you discredit the fry because "no one has raised them up" or whatever.
And the OP will probably not order but thats not the point, the point is you discredit the fry because "no one has raised them up" or whatever.
I haven't discredited anyones fry, I simply pointed out the obvious when buying 1" juvie RT's. I would say the same thing about any breeder/vendor, unless those fish had already peeled & were showing a strong base color, and snow white pearling.
This is exactly why some vendors sell small fry at such reasonable prices. Quality and/or eventual grade classification will be a roll of the dice & they know it, but at lower prices that gamble becomes attractive to many consumers. Nothing wrong with that. This is how some people do in fact get very nice fish at very reasonable prices.
I understand that you have great trust in this seller, which was stated early on in this discussion by yourself & Big_One, and that's good info to have for the OP, and PART of what the OP was enquiring about ..... but you've never even owned an RT, let alone raised any juvies, yet somehow you think that you can grade the quality of an entire tank full of 1" juvies, from nothing more than a somewhat blurry 25 second video? LMAO You must have super human powers.
I'm sure there will be some nice RT's out of that tank full of 1" fry, but the question remains - how many will actually be high quality, as advertised? How many will only partially peel, or never fade/peel, or be washed out orange in color, or have solid pearling with little to no base color showing? These are questions that I would imagine are also important to any potential customer of those $25 1" fry, or when considering $200+ semi mature RT's that have not completely peeled.
You previously stated that having better quality parents decreases the chance of getting crappy fish, to which I agree, but when I look at some of the mature RT's on this vendors youtube page, what is that supposed to tell potential buyers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj47rWdHaH0
http://www.youtube.com/user/siccmindz#p/u/50/tLpgHj_YEAA
The very fact that those two mature females are advertised as being "fertile", is laughable. What breeder in their right mind would actually buy either of those females for breeding purposes? Personally I wouldn't have those fish if they were offered to me for free, and I most certainly would never use them in any type of breeding program. Perhaps with your vast experience with RT's you feel differently.
They also have RT's that even at 6.5" have yet to even peel, which goes back to exactly what I described above. Some fish will make the grade, and sometimes others never will.
http://www.youtube.com/user/siccmindz#p/u/49/gcLx8FVZtuo
You state things such as
Yet as shown above clearly not all of their RT are even remotely close to being what I would consider great. That's not me discrediting their fish, their fry, or anything else. That's me givng an honest opinion based on what I have seen of their past/present RT stock. Nothing more, nothing less.
I would be more than happy to discuss this further, but I suspect by now the OP has a better understanding of what his odds are when buying random 1" unfaded RT fry from this vendor or any other.
Cheers!
This is exactly why some vendors sell small fry at such reasonable prices. Quality and/or eventual grade classification will be a roll of the dice & they know it, but at lower prices that gamble becomes attractive to many consumers. Nothing wrong with that. This is how some people do in fact get very nice fish at very reasonable prices.
I understand that you have great trust in this seller, which was stated early on in this discussion by yourself & Big_One, and that's good info to have for the OP, and PART of what the OP was enquiring about ..... but you've never even owned an RT, let alone raised any juvies, yet somehow you think that you can grade the quality of an entire tank full of 1" juvies, from nothing more than a somewhat blurry 25 second video? LMAO You must have super human powers.
I'm sure there will be some nice RT's out of that tank full of 1" fry, but the question remains - how many will actually be high quality, as advertised? How many will only partially peel, or never fade/peel, or be washed out orange in color, or have solid pearling with little to no base color showing? These are questions that I would imagine are also important to any potential customer of those $25 1" fry, or when considering $200+ semi mature RT's that have not completely peeled.
You previously stated that having better quality parents decreases the chance of getting crappy fish, to which I agree, but when I look at some of the mature RT's on this vendors youtube page, what is that supposed to tell potential buyers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj47rWdHaH0
http://www.youtube.com/user/siccmindz#p/u/50/tLpgHj_YEAA
The very fact that those two mature females are advertised as being "fertile", is laughable. What breeder in their right mind would actually buy either of those females for breeding purposes? Personally I wouldn't have those fish if they were offered to me for free, and I most certainly would never use them in any type of breeding program. Perhaps with your vast experience with RT's you feel differently.
They also have RT's that even at 6.5" have yet to even peel, which goes back to exactly what I described above. Some fish will make the grade, and sometimes others never will.
http://www.youtube.com/user/siccmindz#p/u/49/gcLx8FVZtuo
You state things such as
Yet as shown above clearly not all of their RT are even remotely close to being what I would consider great. That's not me discrediting their fish, their fry, or anything else. That's me givng an honest opinion based on what I have seen of their past/present RT stock. Nothing more, nothing less.
I would be more than happy to discuss this further, but I suspect by now the OP has a better understanding of what his odds are when buying random 1" unfaded RT fry from this vendor or any other.
Cheers!
WOW... I figured I would chime in on the subject!! Calihawk..... you can buy RT fry from anyone you want.....but.....all I have to say is this.....why spend that kind of money on Rt fry from thailand when you can get a damn good deal here in the states.....not to mention...there are other RT fry in Thailand for less money also. I am not saying mine are better than anyone elses, just cheaper in Price. Why buy 2 fish when you can get a dozen! and I have lots of fish that started to fade at 1/2!!! NO BS either!!!
Latest video of 4 to 6 month old Juvies...fading and getting better color all the time!!! Sorry for the crappy light, but I spend my money on food to raise my fish, and not on Fancy lights... LOL!!!
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Latest video of 4 to 6 month old Juvies...fading and getting better color all the time!!! Sorry for the crappy light, but I spend my money on food to raise my fish, and not on Fancy lights... LOL!!!
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