Sea Shepherd

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what do you think of the sea shepherd and its crew?

  • They are awesome! I hope they stop all the whalers!

    Votes: 52 37.1%
  • They have good intentions but are doing things wrong and need to stop

    Votes: 35 25.0%
  • they are all a little crazy and looking for attention

    Votes: 26 18.6%
  • They should not be risking the lives of innocent people by puling the stupid stunts they pull.

    Votes: 27 19.3%

  • Total voters
    140
Zoodiver;4310464; said:
Goal of Paul is to draw attention to illegal Japanese whaling practices. He did that, even if we don't agree with how he went about doing it.

That being said, WHALE WARS is just one of his many projects. He does a LOT of good for the ocean world through other means. Most don't get attention because he and his staff use 'normal' methods.


Paulo watson is a nut job. Anyone who treads in his footsteps are not in their right mind. You see him tell people that you ahve to risk your life to save a whale but where is he when someone is risking their life. He's sitting inside the cabin thinking he's doing something great.


All his show does is make me want to go to japan and eat whale just to piss him off. He is nothing but a pirate. and if you think that is refutable look up the deffinition of pirate or terrorist and you'll see that's what he is.
 
koop171;4310592; said:
Paulo watson is a nut job. Anyone who treads in his footsteps are not in their right mind. You see him tell people that you ahve to risk your life to save a whale but where is he when someone is risking their life. He's sitting inside the cabin thinking he's doing something great.


All his show does is make me want to go to japan and eat whale just to piss him off. He is nothing but a pirate. and if you think that is refutable look up the deffinition of pirate or terrorist and you'll see that's what he is.





So... you have no problem with whaling?
 
Zander_The_RBP;4310334; said:
i agree


Protesting to the politians will never get anything done, going out there and killing the F***ERS that are the problem WILL get things done and is currently the only way for the sea shepherd to get it's job done and it's point across


A human life is worth no more or no less than the lives of any other organism. Life is nothing but a series of complex chemical reactions that occur in every living thing on this planet if human lives are worth so much then all other lives have this same value, and if you beleive that then you should also be of the opinion that certain basic chemical reactions also have value.... see where im going? life itself has no value and therefore every life is equal and therefore sometimes killing is an acceptable way of solving very serious problems like this (Problems that if we don't fix are going to doom our future generations) A few ignorant lives need to be sacrificed in order for our future generations to be able to enjoy the same things we enjoy today (such as living!)
Okay, I'm sorry, but no matter what you believe in, that is bs. I killed a mosquito about an hour ago, so should I get the death penalty (or at least life in prison)? :screwy:

Also, based on the section I highlighted in yellow, you seem to have two opposing points of view at once that contradict eachother, which makes it a little unclear what exactly you are trying to say...

P.S.: And I hope you were joking about that first part...
 
Bottomfeeder;4310498; said:
:iagree:


I hold Capt Watson to almost the same level as Steve Irwin as conservationists. Their methods are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they have the same goals and do just as much good for the world and ALL of its inhabitants.

Long live Sea Shepherd:headbang2

Please do not compare Steve Irwin to this man, that is a disgrace to a dead man. I respect Irwin very highly he was noble in his endeavour to protect nature by educating the world. This Capt Watson man has no noble bone in him. He is not smart nor does he do good for his cause. These successes that the people supporting Watson bring up are not helpful. Getting publicity in the form that this man is making anti-whaling protesters look like toddlers playing with 100ft boats. :screwy: Even if they are succesful in stopping whaling occasionally this organization is obsolete. Once this man loses his life, boat, or money what dent will he have made on anti-whaling. None what so ever, instead he caused publicity making his cause look ignorant and childish for the next generation of anti-whalers. And lets face it the rate this man is going he is going to end up on the bottom of the ocean, or in a jail cell for the rest of his life.
 
I agree with Koop on Watson being a nut job. I get the whole reason behind it being to get attention but putting humans in highly dangerous situations that aren't prepared for it is irresponsible and idiotic. That and I doubt that many of them have a actual concept of how dangerous some of the things they are doing. I'm against whaling and like watching them mess with them but some of the stuff is just dumb. Oh and if u don't think that your life is worth more than anthers, go put a bullet in your head so others who do care can benefit from your organs.
 
Bhack91;4310645; said:
Please do not compare Steve Irwin to this man, that is a disgrace to a dead man. I respect Irwin very highly he was noble in his endeavour to protect nature by educating the world. This Capt Watson man has no noble bone in him. He is not smart nor does he do good for his cause. These successes that the people supporting Watson bring up are not helpful. Getting publicity in the form that this man is making anti-whaling protesters look like toddlers playing with 100ft boats. :screwy: Even if they are succesful in stopping whaling occasionally this organization is obsolete. Once this man loses his life, boat, or money what dent will he have made on anti-whaling. None what so ever, instead he caused publicity making his cause look ignorant and childish for the next generation of anti-whalers. And lets face it the rate this man is going he is going to end up on the bottom of the ocean, or in a jail cell for the rest of his life.




I idolize Steve Irwin. He is an immortal legend whos legacy will live on forever.
Watson has probably saved as many animals as Steve. I respect Capt Watson equally.
 
drgnfrc13;4310634; said:
Okay, I'm sorry, but no matter what you believe in, that is bs. I killed a mosquito about an hour ago, so should I get the death penalty (or at least life in prison)? :screwy:

Also, based on the section I highlighted in yellow, you seem to have two opposing points of view at once that contradict eachother, which makes it a little unclear what exactly you are trying to say...
P.S.: And I hope you were joking about that first part...

yeah i sort of got lost in my own rant there i'll admit and yes i did contradict myself. Looking back i realise how little sense it made and how irrellevant it was.


Im sorry to say i was not joking about the first part of that post, your lying to yourself if you think politicians care at all about protests and stuff. If they happen to pass a law that was demanded in a protest it was becuase they were already going to pass it because they wanted votes that is all.

Until a protest threatens to loose them money or cost them votes they will do nothing and as long as their opponents are not offering to pass such laws, they are not loosing votes so it dosen't concern them.

Don't ever think politicians care about you at all they look down on you as little puppets to use however they please.

Are there better ways of making people aware of the problem absolutely (look at Steve Irwin he certainly didn't protest or blow up ships or anything he took the middle road and ultiamtely the right one with EDUCATION) But thats not to say i don't disagree with what they are doing infact Steve Irwin himself supported the sea shepherd society.
 
Zander_The_RBP;4310697; said:
yeah i sort of got lost in my own rant there i'll admit and yes i did contradict myself. Looking back i realise how little sense it made and how irrellevant it was.


Im sorry to say i was not joking about the first part of that post, your lying to yourself if you think politicians care at all about protests and stuff. If they happen to pass a law that was demanded in a protest it was becuase they were already going to pass it because they wanted votes that is all.

Until a protest threatens to loose them money or cost them votes they will do nothing and as long as their opponents are not offering to pass such laws, they are not loosing votes so it dosen't concern them.

Don't ever think politicians care about you at all they look down on you as little puppets to use however they please.

Are there better ways of making people aware of the problem absolutely (look at Steve Irwin he certainly didn't protest or blow up ships or anything he took the middle road and ultiamtely the right one with EDUCATION) But thats not to say i don't disagree with what they are doing infact Steve Irwin himself supported the sea shepherd society.



If you see me post a very long post i either really care about what im posting or i have too much time on my hands..... usualy the later.




So? Which one?:ROFL::ROFL:


:D
 
Bottomfeeder;4310666; said:
I idolize Steve Irwin. He is an immortal legend whos legacy will live on forever.
Watson has probably saved as many animals as Steve. I respect Capt Watson equally.

Although I disagree with your admiration for Watson, I agree Irwin is a great man. Im not argueing that you should change your opinion Im just sharing that facts that give me my opinion. Watson's actions Im sure saved a few whales at first but his tactics are nonexistant. As soon as the whalers realized he was there, they outsmarted him ever since. Simply put Watson is saving very few whales now. Irwin saved an unmeasurable amount of animals now and in the future. The problem with all this "action" over "talk" is that, the human world doesn't work that way. Irwin educated and connected millions of people to animals, so that others shared his respect for nature. Where as Watson attacks people who do not respect nature. Education is a far more effective way of fighting such battles. Just look at the medical field for example, the education of the general population in simple sanitation. Went from people dieing of the cold and simple infections to where we are now. We didn't get that way by exiling sick people and keeping them out of the population. Which would be the equivalent of Watson's actions in this scenario.
 
Bottomfeeder;4310721; said:
So? Which one?:ROFL::ROFL:


:D
oh come on now it wasen't THAT long for this one though i have to say it was becuase this is a topic i genuinely feel passionate about.
 
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