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While this might be true it starts you upon a very slippery slope. Where do we draw the line at where armed guards and security are absolutely needed versus personal freedoms? Are we willing to have a police state? Maybe military personnel walking guard in public places?

That's true. I'm not saying military or police should be every where but possibly have a few teachers take military tacital lessons and arm them in preparation for this type of situation. Its sad that one of the safest places for children was shoot up and an entire class of pre k kids were killed. Especially in a town like newtown . I live fairly close to and rarely ever heard anything bad happening there.

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I agree, which is why I'd prefer the idea of certain faculty members carrying a concealed weapon as a precaution, not armed guards on display as a show of force. That would never fly in this country.

My point exactly.

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That's true. I'm not saying military or police should be every where but possibly have a few teachers take military tacital lessons and arm them in preparation for this type of situation. Its sad that one of the safest places for children was shoot up and an entire class of pre k kids were killed. Especially in a town like newtown . I live fairly close to and rarely ever heard anything bad happening there.

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Ok, lets play Devils advocate for a moment. Who will determine which staff members are suitable for this training? Who will pay for it. Some people think teachers are overworked and under paid as it is, what kind of compensation would be fair? Or conversely, some think teachers are over paid and incompetent. Do we now reward them with more power? And if an incident happens and said teacher does not prevent little Johnny from being killed, despite the rest of the school being saved, or worse misses and shoots little Johnny themselves, who will be liable?

Don't get me wrong here, I want to do whatever is possible to make the children safe, but we can't put them in bubble wrap their whole lives. I want to know how that person got to the classroom and how we can stop the easy access.
 
I maybe coming out of left field with this, but I feel like this and other recent incidents are proof that perhaps gun laws should be more lenient. Now the reason I say that is if more people had easier access to guns, people would be more capable of defending themselves and at the same time maybe make people think twice before pulling a gun on someone. I mean I think people would think twice if they knew the other person is just as likely to be carrying one. So in my opinion arming and educating people as a whole maybe a better way to go. I'm also very wary about giving too much power to the government as I already feel they have more than was originally intended and aren't using it for the people as much as their own self interests. Asking them to step in with more control over us in the form of what would be along the lines of a police state is just scary to me. The more we ask them to step into and control our daily lives the more they will and we'll have no one else to blame but ourselves. By asking the government to arm teachers or guards aren't we asking for what essentially is more policing of our actions in more venues?

I'm not trying to use this tragedy as support for my feelings or reasoning's. I'm just thinking aloud here as perhaps this tragic incident coupled with my growing older is making re-evaluate things. Again I express my deep remorse and disturbance at such a vile act and send my condolences to those families and prayers to those who passed on this day.
 
I agree, which is why I'd prefer the idea of certain faculty members carrying a concealed weapon as a precaution, not armed guards on display as a show of force. That would never fly in this country.

Quote for truth!! Youd have my vote.
 
I live in CT but not near the school where the shooting took place. I'm thankful that my sons school is very strict with security precautions. I can't imagine how those parents are feeling after losing their child is such a horrific way. My thoughts are with everyone who had been effected by this disgusting act of insanity. My three boys got extra snuggles from Mommy today for sure!

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Ok, lets play Devils advocate for a moment. Who will determine which staff members are suitable for this training? Who will pay for it. Some people think teachers are overworked and under paid as it is, what kind of compensation would be fair? Or conversely, some think teachers are over paid and incompetent. Do we now reward them with more power? And if an incident happens and said teacher does not prevent little Johnny from being killed, despite the rest of the school being saved, or worse misses and shoots little Johnny themselves, who will be liable?

Don't get me wrong here, I want to do whatever is possible to make the children safe, but we can't put them in bubble wrap their whole lives. I want to know how that person got to the classroom and how we can stop the easy access.

Yeah it's hard to determine. And you know, it's kinda similar to the Auto Zone incident in a way where an employee was fired for using a gun to stop a robbery. Schools are gun-free zones. No secret about that. What if there had been a teacher on campus that had a concealed weapons permit and took his gun to school everyday without telling anybody, going against his employer's policies and even local laws? And what if he used that gun to stop a mass murder like what happened today?

How do you think the public would react? Hero? And undoubtedly would get fired and lose his ability to teach ever again. Do we take away an employer's ability to deny a person's right to carry a weapon on company grounds?
 
I'm thankful that my sons school is very strict with security precautions.

Which is what, if I may ask? Short of keeping kids in schools that resemble prisons, I don't see how something like this could be prevented, ANYWHERE.
 
Ok, lets play Devils advocate for a moment. Who will determine which staff members are suitable for this training? Who will pay for it. Some people think teachers are overworked and under paid as it is, what kind of compensation would be fair? Or conversely, some think teachers are over paid and incompetent. Do we now reward them with more power? And if an incident happens and said teacher does not prevent little Johnny from being killed, despite the rest of the school being saved, or worse misses and shoots little Johnny themselves, who will be liable?

Don't get me wrong here, I want to do whatever is possible to make the children safe, but we can't put them in bubble wrap their whole lives. I want to know how that person got to the classroom and how we can stop the easy access.

That's a good point. There's no real way of telling who I suitable to carry or own fire arms. Either way it can dramatically change a dangerous situation. When I was in school in New York growing up even in my elementary school there were armed police officers there but when I moved down south to Florida it was nothing like that at all not even security gaurds. I've seen and heard of crazy things happening in New York schools but never nothing like this.

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