they make a great dither for big cichlids as long as they have room to speed around i settled on a shoal of spotteds to keep with my Os and GTs and they are doing very well the are tough, fast and quite entertaining the fact that all the different types school together is cool so you dont have to settle on one type. ie a mixed school of spotted , normals, red hooks , and barred still looks uniform but has a lot more interest when you take a closer look.