Some people shouldnt keep fish!!!!

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Still that tank looks a lil crouded, but fish are healthy. After seeing the 8k i stand corrected.

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Still that tank looks a lil crouded, but fish are healthy. After seeing the 8k i stand corrected.

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People who do stuff like that need to put themselves in there fish's position I don't think the person who did this would like to be stuck in a closet with 12 other people.|:(

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I agree with you guys. The tank is crazy overstocked and it's wrong on many levels. Tanks like that are so unstable it's ridiculous; a one or two hour power outage and it's all over. It's a risky way to keep fish; I think that's part of what draws people into trying it...they think they are somehow above the "average" MFKer if they are able to keep the fish alive, even if it's just for a short period of time. Even if you have awesome filtration, in order to keep that bioload in such a small tank you basically need to do constant water changes to keep your PH from going extremly acidic/toxic. Ammonia spikes are also always a huge threat. Eventually (usually after losing lots of fish) people realize it's a silly way to try to keep them and learn that stocking a tank more moderately is better for everyone involved (fish and fishkeeper). Unfortunately, it takes some people longer than others to figure this out.
 
Even if you have awesome filtration, in order to keep that bioload in such a small tank you basically need to do constant water changes to keep your PH from going extremly acidic/toxic. Ammonia spikes are also always a huge threat. Eventually (usually after losing lots of fish) people realize it's a silly way to try to keep them and learn that stocking a tank more moderately is better for everyone involved (fish and fishkeeper). Unfortunately, it takes some people longer than others to figure this out.

That tank sure looks ridiculous, but i fail to see how criticizing the people who keep a big bio load helps anyone.

Those guys you deride, sure took ( if not fishkeeping in your sense ) tank maintenance and filtration to levels a lot of guys do not imagine.

I have nothing against full tanks, and most of the ones i know have healthier fish than a lot of the main staple i see nowadays.

By the way, ammonia spikes, if they happen, are no great risk in "acidic"tanks.
 
I have said it more than once, but will say it again. The ease people criticise others is baffling to me, to put it mildly. It is allmost as if people enter unsolicitedly into another guys house.....

I know a lot of heavy loads in Europe. I know of enormous loads in Japan, among others. What i see in most of these tanks ( bar simple and ignorant fish hoarders ) is pristine water, top tier filtration systems, top notch wc systems, perfcetly looking fish.

In a lot of situations the whole system looks much better than your average 100 gallon tank with a couple of fish.

I overstock. As a matter of fact, we all do, in our glass boxes, whether one recognizes it or not.

Remember the origin of this site. monsterfishkeepers. This was a site of huge tanks, huge fish, huge loads. And it was place where those issues, admittedly complicated and not for everyone, were addressed and debated, and monsterfishkeeping evolved, and thos guys really took it to another level.

I miss those Fugupuff's tanks, phulltank's tanks, and a lot of other, so called, " overloaders". They really were, and are, above average. They kept full tanks for years on end.

They really are the origin of monsterfishkeeping. It would simply not exist without them.

A dovii does not make a mosnterfishkeeper. It is only a big fish.
 
I have said it more than once, but will say it again. The ease people criticise others is baffling to me, to put it mildly. It is allmost as if people enter unsolicitedly into another guys house.....

I know a lot of heavy loads in Europe. I know of enormous loads in Japan, among others. What i see in most of these tanks ( bar simple and ignorant fish hoarders ) is pristine water, top tier filtration systems, top notch wc systems, perfcetly looking fish.

In a lot of situations the whole system looks much better than your average 100 gallon tank with a couple of fish.

I overstock. As a matter of fact, we all do, in our glass boxes, whether one recognizes it or not.

Remember the origin of this site. monsterfishkeepers. This was a site of huge tanks, huge fish, huge loads. And it was place where those issues, admittedly complicated and not for everyone, were addressed and debated, and monsterfishkeeping evolved, and thos guys really took it to another level.

I miss those Fugupuff's tanks, phulltank's tanks, and a lot of other, so called, " overloaders". They really were, and are, above average. They kept full tanks for years on end.

They really are the origin of monsterfishkeeping. It would simply not exist without them.

A dovii does not make a mosnterfishkeeper. It is only a big fish.
i say the same thing all the time and get bashed for it lol
I overstock a few tanks but do 1-2 wc a day and heavy filtration.And get better growth than if there were half the fish.
Plus i like the look better
 
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