Something I dont understand....Wearing uniforms in public

[SumoNinja]

That has not at all been my personal experience. until i witness that i won't comment on it. i'm pretty sure anyone who does it has a me first/look at me attitude in the first place

fair enough, but do you react the same way when some dude walks in the club or bar with the same demeanor in other clothing? or is it those specific types of clothing only? that's the part i'm trying to understand. and if it's just those specific types of clothing, then why?

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

let's not make out a military uniform to be the same as accessories such as a rolex or a jesus piece. you're comparing apples to oranges

it's more like a pilot, police officer, athlete in jersey after hours

 

[SumoNinja]

let's not make out a military uniform to be the same as accessories such as a rolex or a jesus piece. you're comparing apples to oranges

you're making it apples and oranges

i'm saying that the guys wearing the uniforms just to get attention, free stuff or pick up chicks are no worse than the people using their cars, their bling or other brand name stuff to get the attention, free stuff or pick up chicks.

but why the hate on these guys and not the other guys? why the double standard? or do you feel the same way about people that do that regardless? because if that's the case, then it has nothting to do with the clothing

 

[jlnguyen74]

let's not make out a military uniform to be the same as accessories such as a rolex or a jesus piece. you're comparing apples to oranges

Are apple and orange both fruit?

 

[MaddMaxx]

let's make out in jersey after hours

 

[Jc1119]

I do not mean to be rude but I am going to use caps.

WHAT PART OF IT BEING AGAINST ORDERS, RULES AND REGULATIONS IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

The simple cold hard fact about this is that it is against regulations (or at least it was for my unit) to be wearing any form of my uniform for socializing activities.

IMHO any person who can not follow the simiplest of rules such as this is a bad soldier as a rule breaker does not make a good order taker and a bad order taker is going to get people killed in the field because they think that their own personhood is above the rules.

Let me first say, that as a civilian, i completely understand where you are coming from. If a soldier cannot follow the most simple rule, how they they be expected to follow rules that are much more serious and could potentially get another soldier or themselves killed. That makes total sense and i respect the fact that most of our servicemen and women do follow these rules, but some do not....

Not that i'm saying rules should be broken, but we in the US have a constitution that is amended and changed all the time, because we as a people and nation are continually changing and evolving......for better or for worse. When i see a soldier in BDU's, as a civilian my first thought is not that they have broken any rule. My first thought is to thank them and try to show some gratitude for their service. By them a beer, lunch or just a simple thank you. i know a lot of soldiers don't like showing up places saying "I've done this or i've done that" because it makes it seem like they are asking for favoritism or some kind of special treatment

The uniform is what i recognize and that's all i have to see to strike up a conversation with them. As a civilian, the uniform makes them much easier to spot. So, i guess what I'm asking is, "Other than BDU's or formal dress uniforms, is there something more casual they could wear in public places that would make it easier for the rest of us to recognize them without breaking rules?" Sure there are knuckleheads in every group of people who do things for the wrong reasons, but most soldiers i meet just want to show that they are proud to have served and just want to be patriotic.

Personally, i like being able to recognize them out in public, but i really don't expect them to wear their dress uniforms all the time either. Seems like there could be a happy medium that suits both the armed services and the rest of us who see them as heroes, and just want to show how thankful we really are.......

 

[fatcat]

I think its all about being comfy...I can attest to it that Cammies are hella comfy. Also they could be proud of wearing their cammies too.

My GF is Dental Hygenist and she wears her scrubs at home and shopping because they are very very comfy. Even at her other job.

All in all it doesnt matter what people wear...Id rather see the WHOLE world wear cammies than for everyone to wear their pants down to their knees. Or even a cap sideways

I don't get this. First it's about it's all about being comfy, all in all it doesn't matter what people wear, then it's bad to wear your pants down to your knees or wear your cap sideways. TRUST ME I'm not defending the people who do this, as a matter of fact I don't anything gets me more fired up than seeing people wear their pants like this. To me what it comes down to is you need to held accountable for the way you present yourself. I have a lot of comfy Tshirts, but they have inappropriate things on them. (I don't wear them much anymore.)I should also clarify I am only speaking about servicemen wearing their uniforms to socializing events. I have NO problem seeing them in town pumping gas or stoping at the market. In that context, I may even strike up a conversation. I do go out of my way to thank veterans of previous wars, especially Vietnam vets.
I would also like to reply to my pal Sumo who asked what's the difference between the guys wearing their military uniforms, and the guys with flashy watches and cars trying to pick up chicks at the bar. The nice watch gets worn everyday, and the nice car gets driven everyday everywhere. Mabe they have a great job, mabe they did buy those things to try to impress the ladies, it's too hard to say. But when you go to a social event, you're going to relax, let your hair down, why would you want to represent your country at THAT time?

 

[chefjamesscott]

So without pulling your whole response as a quote Jc1119, I will say one thing for myself at least.

When I was in the service it was engrained in me that all orders were to be followed to the T whether or not I agreed with them and that is how I came to view things.

During exercises it became very clear and apparent how the cohesiveness of our unit was totally sacrificed by the simplest of deviation. The only time we were given space for improvisation was on certain combat exercises where the order was to take the objective and the means were left up to us as to how that was to be accomplished.

People may see my looking at the breaking of regulation and rule in the regard of the wearing of military dress as being a nitpicker and that is fine for them.

Yet, for the people who would think that I am being a nitpicker about such a small issue, I have one ?.

Do you know what a nit is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nit

So far as my training went I came to the clear understanding that even the smallest of details was of great import and though others may see it as a flaw I will ever be a nitpicker when I encounter a nit, simply because it is the small things that hatch to be very big things.

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

i totally had to check and see if i really said that, lol

 

[beex215]

i just saw one dude wearing his uni today. seems to be 40+ and it was the older darker uni. i dont know where he was going but it didnt bother me. i should have asked him if he was doing laundry.