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[mangingisda]

If you want to risk stressing him more you can pull him out of the water and check his gills which is what I would recommend.

thanks for the suggestion bro, i will make that as my last option, i will try the merch med first.

 

[mangingisda]

I have never heard of it but I think it may be your only choice.
When treating flukes though you want to be sure to treat for a whole month, that way you know for sure you get it all. I'm just worried that it maybe too late.
Ask them also about tetracycline and if they have it. I have heard that it works for flukes also but I was too late with mine http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253662

sad for for those bros and sis of yours, i hope its not too late with mine

 

[RD.]

Here's my advice - STOP ADDING MEDICATION.

What you are doing is grasping at straws, and using a shotgun approach when medicating fish is not only adding additional stress to a fish that is already stressed, but you also risk killing off your bio filtration bacteria, and causing any pathogens that may be present to build up a resistance to these meds, and creating super bugs that you will never be able to eradicate.

I realize that people here are trying to help you, but the advice that some are giving is simply piss poor advice. HH gave you the best advice in this thread, buy a heater (if you don't already have one), crank up the heat (slowly over the course of the day) to 30C, add salt (again slowly over the course of the day) and add some extra aeration to the tank.

It could be the early signs of ich (they start in the gills) - it could be gill flukes (which don't need to be treated for a month) or it could be something else - and the last thing you want to start doing is adding antibiotics such as Tetracycline.

SLOW DOWN - stop grasping at straws, and start with the most non stressful approach & go from there. All of these medications have their pros & cons, and I would suggest you find out both before you continue adding any further meds to this tank.

Unfortunately most of us here aren't going to be familiar with the meds that your LFS carries, so you might be better off checking with local hobbyists as to what they have used successfully.

HTH

 

[vaine111]

Here's my advice - STOP ADDING MEDICATION.

What you are doing is grasping at straws, and using a shotgun approach when medicating fish is not only adding additional stress to a fish that is already stressed, but you also risk killing off your bio filtration bacteria, and causing any pathogens that may be present to build up a resistance to these meds, and creating super bugs that you will never be able to eradicate.

I realize that people here are trying to help you, but the advice that some are giving is simply piss poor advice. HH gave you the best advice in this thread, buy a heater (if you don't already have one), crank up the heat (slowly over the course of the day) to 30C, add salt (again slowly over the course of the day) and add some extra aeration to the tank.

It could be the early signs of ich (they start in the gills) - it could be gill flukes (which don't need to be treated for a month) or it could be something else - and the last thing you want to start doing is adding antibiotics such as Tetracycline.

SLOW DOWN - stop grasping at straws, and start with the most non stressful approach & go from there. All of these medications have their pros & cons, and I would suggest you find out both before you continue adding any further meds to this tank.

Unfortunately most of us here aren't going to be familiar with the meds that your LFS carries, so you might be better off checking with local hobbyists as to what they have used successfully.

HTH

I love this guy!
Or you can do that also

 

[mangingisda]

Here's my advice - STOP ADDING MEDICATION.

What you are doing is grasping at straws, and using a shotgun approach when medicating fish is not only adding additional stress to a fish that is already stressed, but you also risk killing off your bio filtration bacteria, and causing any pathogens that may be present to build up a resistance to these meds, and creating super bugs that you will never be able to eradicate.

I realize that people here are trying to help you, but the advice that some are giving is simply piss poor advice. HH gave you the best advice in this thread, buy a heater (if you don't already have one), crank up the heat (slowly over the course of the day) to 30C, add salt (again slowly over the course of the day) and add some extra aeration to the tank.

It could be the early signs of ich (they start in the gills) - it could be gill flukes (which don't need to be treated for a month) or it could be something else - and the last thing you want to start doing is adding antibiotics such as Tetracycline.

SLOW DOWN - stop grasping at straws, and start with the most non stressful approach & go from there. All of these medications have their pros & cons, and I would suggest you find out both before you continue adding any further meds to this tank.

Unfortunately most of us here aren't going to be familiar with the meds that your LFS carries, so you might be better off checking with local hobbyists as to what they have used successfully.

HTH

i love you bro, your my idol... thanks for the help so all i need is a (heater, salt & tetracycline) i will try to find cheapest heater and where i can buy a tetra? its is from drug store? i called lfs but they don't have.

i check the water temp now it was 27c.

 

[H]-[H]

i love you bro, your my idol... thanks for the help so all i need is a (heater, salt & tetracycline) i will try to find cheapest heater and where i can buy a tetra? its is from drug store? i called lfs but they don't have.

i check the water temp now it was 27c.

I think what bro RD. was trying to say is to avoid tetracycline or any meds altogether.. Just a steady water change routine & steady temp at 30~32°C
& it's better to get a good quality heater.. A cheap heater doesn't last long & might bring more trouble if it breaks..

 

[mangingisda]

I think what bro RD. was trying to say is to avoid tetracycline or any meds altogether.. Just a steady water change routine & steady temp at 30~32°C
& it's better to get a good quality heater.. A cheap heater doesn't last long & might bring more trouble if it breaks..

oh sorry, i thought he want me to used it thanks for clearing it up bro yup i just wanted to get a good quality too but my budget is not enough, so i have no choice, i had to find a cheapest that suit for my budget.. dont worry mybro i will surely buy a good one when i have enough money.

 

[H]-[H]

oh sorry, i thought he want me to used it thanks for clearing it up bro yup i just wanted to get a good quality too but my budget is not enough, so i have no choice, i had to find a cheapest that suit for my budget.. dont worry mybro i will surely buy a good one when i have enough money.

You just need to be extra careful with cheaper heaters like what happened to one of the members here: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333794

 

[alexmuw]

What are your water parameters?
Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate...

Like RD said, pick one medication, and stick to that..... But FIRST identify what you have. If they are randomly flashing their entire body, look for white spots. If he's scratching his gills and acting "tired" it's most likely gill flukes.

Best thing for GILL flukes is praziquantel (methylene blue is too soft for flukes, even potassium permanganate is better to use. Do what you want though. You got 5 or so different suggestions here). NEVER heard about waiting a month to treat gill-flukes. Good luck, they'll be dead by then.

For ich, I agree with the others: heat + salt + water-change.

 

[RD.]

I think what bro RD. was trying to say is to avoid tetracycline or any meds altogether.. Just a steady water change routine & steady temp at 30~32°C

Exactly what I meant, thanks.

What are your water parameters?
Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate...

Yes, I wonder the same thing? When you removed all of that gravel you may have caused an ammonia spike, which could also be irritating your fish, causing some flashing such as seen in your video.

Like RD said, pick one medication, and stick to that..... But FIRST identify what you have. If they are randomly flashing their entire body, look for white spots. If he's scratching his gills and acting "tired" it's most likely gill flukes.

Bingo! Before one adds ANY type of medication to the tank, first you must know exactly what you are attempting to treat. You should never just add medication willy-nilly.

Best thing for GILL flukes is praziquantel

I concur, prazi is #1 for gill flukes - IF that's what this turns out to be.