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Brazil is not Cuba!
Permits are not hard to get if you use proper channels.
So..some of you seem to be saying that it is OK for someone to walk into your yard and start helping themselves.
Innocuous biological specimens have yielded huge scientific results to biotech. For example, about 15 or so years ago a rare Brazilian leech was removed in a similar way. This ended up generating new medicines for anti-blood clotting agents and local aneasthetic, yielding $$multi millions for a non Brazilian pharma company but not a penny for Brazil.
Whether what this guy was caught with , and there were Brazilian press photos of the various samples, would have given those kind of benefits is hard to know, but the principle remains....when you go into someone else's country you respect their laws.
HB boasts about working with biotech companies....so...by any definition this is eco-piracy
 
What, Cuba and Brazil are not the same place?......

My point was to say.....you do not know the whole facts....a simple error in paperwork could lead to a smuggling charge. He may not be a bad person. Mud sticks. I could be mistaken for a murdered tomorrow and then let go, it does not make me guilty.

In your example, would Brazil have made the same discovery or would the leech have stayed, just a leech? If so that would have been a shame for the good it did. The Brazillians now might now have the choice to produce the same result and compete I would have thought....especially if so rare that they can comtrol the supply.

Pharma companies will never be seen in a good light as they make money from controlling the supply of out cures, Cancer cures will not be cheap this is not just down to the cost of production, it is what people will pay.

Yes, it would have been the right thing to do to poor money back to Brazil in your scenario - I agree.
 
I really dont like the way the magazine gone, they are trying to be way too informative and it just makes the contributors come across big headed and egocentrical. I also think it alienates a large portion of their readerbase too as i find it much too difficult to read and understand and probably scares off some of those who are new to the hobby which i imagine is a large part of their target audience, and ive also noticed in previous issues that they misidentify the stingrays in pictures aswell.
 
How about finding something about his qualis that he didn't write himself?
Can't be done, as there isn't any
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Toby, I do know a lot of facts, far more than have been published. The man is a fraud.
 
Just Toby;4283932; said:
Come on, lets be sensible here - it would be sooo easy for any legitimate person to get in trouble in Brazil for silly reasons, My Indian friend was detained in Cuba by the govt for trying to "Escape" he is obviously not from Cuba and was there on holiday - it does NOT mean he was criminal or trying to escape.

If you get the slightest bit of paperwork wrong and a jobsworth takes exception and you speak the language poorly then you could end up in court or arrested even if the authorities are just after a bribe.

My Dad worked for the Institute of Ocenaography funded by the National Environment Research Council but he was always getting arrested or some form of trouble when abroad, just cos the authorities could not speak to each other.
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if what you are saying its ok if you make a mistake with paper work to brake the law can you please tell me why it was ok for PFK to bad mouth one of my pals after he got some paperwork wrong and got busted when importing Asian arowana
 
Bogwoodbruce;4284260; said:
Also it sounded like they were dead against the breeding and selling of hybrid rays too.
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and thats not such a bad thing is it
 
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