sturgeon

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Spankbelly;1904834; said:
They do look pretty cool. I'm almost convinced to get one.
Do you think 20 gallons will be enough?
When it grows out, I'll just drop it head first in my rain barrel.
If it makes it past four feet, I'll suspend it by rope to the tail.
All that gravity will do wonders for growth rate!
I'm going to have the biggest captive sturgeon ever!
Remind me, what's the largest species I can buy?
Legal or illegal.
And how much rope will I need?
Can you recommend a softer rope than nylon? Something fish friendly.
For God's sake don't say silk, or even cotton.
Money doesn't grow on trees you know!
But maybe...just maybe...fish do.

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BLACK ICE;1905069; said:

Don't laugh at the Noob!
Come on man!
How do I feed this thing after it's head is stuck in the barrel?
What brand of sinking pellets would be best?
That no name bulk bin stuff is pretty good yeah?
Does mold add nutritional value?
Or will the mosquito larva be enough?
I don't think it will be enough. He is going to be a big sucker!
What do I do in the winter? This is Canada you know.
I've heard sturgeon do ok when the surface freezes over.
But I'm thinking this might be problematic.
Yeah, definitely.
I don't know what -50C is in F, but it's COLD!
Gonna need a heater.
50 watts should be enough?
50/50 yeah?
-50C/50 watts
Well it sounds right.
Hang on, gonna check wickipedia...
 
Spankbelly;1905089; said:
Don't laugh at the noob!
Come on man!
How do I feed this thing after it's head is stuck in the barrel?
What brand of sinking pellets would be best?
That no name bulk bin stuff is pretty good yeah?
Does mold add nutritional value?
Or will the mosquito larva be enough?
I don't think it will be enough. He is going to be a big sucker!
What do I do in the winter? This is Canada you know.
I've heard sturgeon do ok when the surface freezes over.
But I'm thinking this might be problematic.
Yeah, definitely.
I don't know what -50C is in F, but it's COLD!
Gonna need a heater.
50 watts should be enough?
50/50 yeah?
-50C/50 watts
Well it sounds right.
Hang on, gonna check wickipedia...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_convert_degrees_Fahrenheit_to_Celsius_and_vice_versa


-50C...X9.../5...+32...=...-58F

Well...8 degrees difference...should be fine.

50/50
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I was reading and the Shovelnose St sounds pretty interesting. Does it swim a lot like the other sturgs? I googled some pics and all of them are diff shots on the bottom (So I dont know if it is more of a bottom dweller or a stergeon)

Thanks
 
West1;1905347; said:
I was reading and the Shovelnose St sounds pretty interesting. Does it swim a lot like the other sturgs? I googled some pics and all of them are diff shots on the bottom (So I dont know if it is more of a bottom dweller or a stergeon)

Thanks

All Sturgeon are basically bottom dwellers, the shovelnose has lots of advantages over other sturgeon not the least of which is it's tolerance for warm water. It is also more slender and agile than most other sturgeons so it can negotiate the corners in a square tank and things like decorations better than the other sturgeon available.

It is also significantly smaller than the other North American sturgeon, most wild caught fish fall in the 24 to 30" range, in an aquarium it usually tops out at around 18". Since it's a slender fish it also weighs much less than other sturgeon and so needs less food to maintain it's body weight. Other sturgeon can be kept but they never adjust to captivity in an aquarium as well as a shovelnose can. Even an early government study recommended the shovelnose be introduced into the aquarium trade.

Unfortunately the shovelnose was used as a template to study sturgeon breeding (for much the same reasons that make it a good aquarium fish) and now most effort is being put into breeding larger sturgeons and the what few shovelnose that are being produced are mostly being sent out of the country as a food fish for ponds in Asia. (that's what I've been told anyway) Some are bing used to restore populations in some States where the shovelnose has disappeared.

All we need is for a major aquarium fish supplier to buy them in quantity and start providing them to hobbyists instead of the larger sturgeon being provided in small numbers now.
 
Where are the larger kinds coming from, are they wild? Sorry, I think you might have covered that already. I haven't slept in days, I might be missing something.
I'm wondering,um, if you and others feel strongly that the big guys should not be sold...why not get them banned?
People do enough complaining when something gets banned that they want. But maybe the responsible thing for the community to do is to occasionally be ahead of the curve.
Is that stupid? I'm pretty sleepy. Might be stupid.
Maybe you alredy mentioned baning. Sounds famaliur. Or just the part where you say I'm stupid.
Why I ottaa...reread this thread tomorrow.
 
Spankbelly;1906427; said:
Where are the larger kinds coming from, are they wild? Sorry, I think you might have covered that already. I haven't slept in days, I might be missing something.
I'm wondering,um, if you and others feel strongly that the big guys should not be sold...why not get them banned?
People do enough complaining when something gets banned that they want. But maybe the responsible thing for the community to do is to occasionally be ahead of the curve.
Is that stupid? I'm pretty sleepy. Might be stupid.
Maybe you alredy mentioned baning. Sounds famaliur. Or just the part where you say I'm stupid.
Why I ottaa...reread this thread tomorrow.

So many people seem to think all sturgeon are one species or at least they are all the same that banning the big ones would almost certainly result in banning them all. All the sturgeon in the trade are captive bred, there are more of the big ones being bred so they are the ones who get sold into the trade. Also it's difficult to tell people they cannot keep a certain fish just because they are a big fish and it's true that captive fish seldom get to be as big as they do in the wild. Even a giant sturgeon can stay within the 3 foot range in captivity but as I said before the shovelnose is still better long term captive. If I could I would buy several hundred shovelnose to raise in a pond for food and maybe sell a few into the trade as well but my state won't allow me to do that. My aquaculture license would be revoked at the very least.
 
craig_uk;1917535; said:
They should not be kept, full stop.

Case in point below
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Enjoy from a distance, i.e. In the wild.

craggy

Exactly what do you mean by this post? How can keeping small species of captive bred sturgeon have anything to do with this giant? Please explain
 
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