tank ethics

[TheBloodyIrish]

Another one:

- Just because it cost less than 5 dollars, it doesn't means that is disposable and deserve to be treated like crap

 

[derk dastardlee]

and no i don't think i was off topic with my other comment, the fact that they can't order more shrimp per week, or take a deposit to get extra, is wrong and dumb. plus from other posts, it's kinda obvious that this thread has wandered.

 

[Sundew]

1.People who mix african and american cichlids when they clearly need different setups

2.People who dump fish in rivers

1.There is a LFS that mixes both. Their water is <1500 ppm well water, with Malawis, Tangans, Uaru, Discus, Oscars, Angles all on the same water system, sometime in the same tank. I do not have Rift Lake species currently and when I buy S.A.s from there I have to use a drip titration system for several hours to acclimate the fish to "normal" water conditions (which in this case is usually treated tap water at 140 ppm, not idea but better, I would think). There seems to be relatively little aggression in their tanks. I believe he only had the discus for a short time when I saw them.

2.Florida's ecosystems have been altered by dumping of fish but also by overflowing of fish farms during hurricanes. On a trip to one of the springs I saw not only Manatees but a few dozen 18" Plecos cleaning their hides and a large Pacu cruising around. At Blue Hole Park on Big Pine Key (a large sinkhole filled with rain water and probably one of the few fresh water habitats in the Keys), there were bass and sunfish, soft shell and red ear slider turtles and an albino oscar and pacus. In this case probably all the fish were introduced, even the Florida natives. The really sad case was a friend went out with the DNR on a canal fish population survey in the Miami area. They dammed both ends of a canal and added rotenone (a fish poison) I think they found 35 fish species, only one was native. S. Florida's ecosystem is done, despite all the political talk to the contrary, don't let it happen to yours!

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

S. Florida's ecosystem is done, despite all the political talk to the contrary, don't let it happen to yours!

It's kinda hard to gauge the ecosystem sometimes. When animals compete for space, they sometimes just move to a less favorable area. Other times... it just wipe out the population.

I know there was one survey of anoles. Brown Anoles are common near the ground, but if you sample a different height in the trees, the Green Anoles seemed to be consistant with historical data. So some biologists now think that the Green Anole just adapted by moving upward. Of course all that changed when the Cuban Anoles began to eat everything.

Although South Florida's ecosystem is no longer the same. I means those Burmese Pythons are breeding and wrestling gators now.

I wonder how long before some of the newly introduced breeding animals will be considered native. I think there are a couple of non-native fish are now considered as Florida's natives after 50 years of their inital introduction.

 

[straitjacketstar]

and no i don't think i was off topic with my other comment, the fact that they can't order more shrimp per week, or take a deposit to get extra, is wrong and dumb. plus from other posts, it's kinda obvious that this thread has wandered.

The fact that a big box store, which has it's own rules and policies as to the ordering of livestock, drygoods and supplies, will not order extra/you shrimp has nothing to do with the "ethical" keeping of fish in home aquaria.

 

[Epic Fabrications]

Only feeding Pacu veggies is unethical, IMO. The occasional feeder, earthworm, or cricket is more than okay. It brings out richer colors and they seem to enjoy the chase...

However a lot of people will disagree with me, on feeding them anything but veggies and pellets.

 

[Arachnar]

Dyed fish
setting up fights between agressive fish(cock fights)
rude people,petco,and people who don't actually know the common name or scientific name of their fish as well as their requirements.

 

[hamato_yoshii]

Ok, I work in an LFS, and I want to outlaw the commentary that goes on while I'm trying to catch customers fish. I dont need to hesr "ooh, he's fast... Wow.... just missed him... he knows he's getting caught... almost...almost had him...get him..." etc. I'm getting tired of marv albert and john madden calling my fish catching.

Sorry had to vent.

 

[straitjacketstar]

Ok, I work in an LFS, and I want to outlaw the commentary that goes on while I'm trying to catch customers fish. I dont need to hesr "ooh, he's fast... Wow.... just missed him... he knows he's getting caught... almost...almost had him...get him..." etc. I'm getting tired of marv albert and john madden calling my fish catching.

Sorry had to vent.

Not that I comment, I may giggle at an obvious fumble that the netter knows was humorous and try my hardest not to hover over the netter's shoulder while he's catching my fish and give them as much space as possible. A sort of display of trust, but...

...For as long as there's that dolt that has no business working with live animals, let alone netting fish, and drops (sometimes repeatedly) the fish that has taken him so long to catch....there will be folks who feel it's necessary to narrate the whole ordeal.

 

[Tongue33]

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