the best polypterus tank
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Well you say we are stoping poly's having their normal wild behavior with a bare bottom with no plants and decor. Well to start off if you put any fish into a tank you are immediately encouraging them to stop there natural behavior.
You say by all of us by owning a bichir are leading to there extinction, the truth is that you own one! You contribute to this!
I know how to reproduce bichirs do you?!
To start off you say we shouldn't keep bichirs in groups because it's not what their used to, then you say we should only keep them if we can reproduce them!? How do you intend to do that?
Although I know this I choose to only have one because this stopped being a wild animal as soon as I put it in the tank, and I can certify you that he is happy!
I just think your confused about fish keeping..
You say by all of us by owning a bichir are leading to there extinction, the truth is that you own one! You contribute to this!
I know how to reproduce bichirs do you?!
To start off you say we shouldn't keep bichirs in groups because it's not what their used to, then you say we should only keep them if we can reproduce them!? How do you intend to do that?
Although I know this I choose to only have one because this stopped being a wild animal as soon as I put it in the tank, and I can certify you that he is happy!
I just think your confused about fish keeping..
when i opened this thread i thought i was going to see the best polypterus tank....what went wrong here?
nearly everyone keeps a dog..what about that? what are they good for? Just ask your country to stop destroying the rivers not to stop importing, they'll disappear anyway!
How we breed them in our lab? We keep them alone in their tank, recreate the rain season parameters and then put male and female together. After the mating we divide them.
Beside that, polypterids are not domesticated and stay wild animals.
You also mentioned dogs. I would change the law in a way that evryone who wants own a dog must get through certain tests and be certified and also pay taxes for that dog. Evry dog must be registered. Thats done in most european countries and it helps alot against animal abuse.
Beside that, polypterids are not domesticated and stay wild animals.
You also mentioned dogs. I would change the law in a way that evryone who wants own a dog must get through certain tests and be certified and also pay taxes for that dog. Evry dog must be registered. Thats done in most european countries and it helps alot against animal abuse.
\Although I have gotten a good laugh out of this thread I think a mod should delete it and ban Mr Higher than Though (OP). I do not keep bichirs and most likely never will. I have CA's and I am sure I do not keep them exactly the way I should, but they are doing great. We do not need someone telling us we are abusing our fish and that our tanks are ugly.
Think you need to calm down.
You have come here as a new member, and pretty much insulted anyone who doesn't keep fish the way you prefer.
You are giving it all the yada yada like some kind of know it all, but in reality you DO NOT.
Sure I agree there are many here who have no idea on how to keep any fish, let alone fish such as Arowana, Polypterus etc.
But there are more here who have a very good understanding of the fish.
There are some of us that do more then just keep these fish.
Some of us (myself included) are in direct contact with researchers and scientists (to drop a few names, Prof. dr. Jos Snoeks. Dr. Igarashi and so on) from institutions like the Laboratory of Animal Diversity and Systematics at Leuven University, and the museum of Central Africa.
Helping identify new species and sub-species and reporting back on behavior of said fish in a captive environment, as studies in their natural environment are almost impossible due to dangers posed from regimes in said territories.
Having one of the few known PBB "Turkana" in captivity, I helped report back on PO. Bichir Bichir caught from the northern shallows of Lake Turkana. Helping distinguish differences between them and from locales such as Lake Omo and Lake Chad. Helping to discover the movement patterns of PBB from one area to breed in slightly more Alkaline waters with hints of brackish.
I would say that gives me a right to acknowledge myself as having a good understanding of Polypteridae, and am more than competent at keeping them.
Yet, as I said, none of my tanks (other than for smaller upper jaw species) are planted. (Though all are with substrate/rocks/driftwood)
So according to your expert opinion, I am a useless fish keeper then?
Just to add here, there is a lack of pictures of Polypterus in their natural habitat. Mostly due to the dangers faced getting to the areas.
But here are a few nice snaps of a PO. Congicus in the wild. (Note the lack of heavy plantation...)
Maybe if you didn't come in here from out of the blue guns blazing, you would get a better reception!
You have come here as a new member, and pretty much insulted anyone who doesn't keep fish the way you prefer.
You are giving it all the yada yada like some kind of know it all, but in reality you DO NOT.
Sure I agree there are many here who have no idea on how to keep any fish, let alone fish such as Arowana, Polypterus etc.
But there are more here who have a very good understanding of the fish.
There are some of us that do more then just keep these fish.
Some of us (myself included) are in direct contact with researchers and scientists (to drop a few names, Prof. dr. Jos Snoeks. Dr. Igarashi and so on) from institutions like the Laboratory of Animal Diversity and Systematics at Leuven University, and the museum of Central Africa.
Helping identify new species and sub-species and reporting back on behavior of said fish in a captive environment, as studies in their natural environment are almost impossible due to dangers posed from regimes in said territories.
Having one of the few known PBB "Turkana" in captivity, I helped report back on PO. Bichir Bichir caught from the northern shallows of Lake Turkana. Helping distinguish differences between them and from locales such as Lake Omo and Lake Chad. Helping to discover the movement patterns of PBB from one area to breed in slightly more Alkaline waters with hints of brackish.
I would say that gives me a right to acknowledge myself as having a good understanding of Polypteridae, and am more than competent at keeping them.
Yet, as I said, none of my tanks (other than for smaller upper jaw species) are planted. (Though all are with substrate/rocks/driftwood)
So according to your expert opinion, I am a useless fish keeper then?
Just to add here, there is a lack of pictures of Polypterus in their natural habitat. Mostly due to the dangers faced getting to the areas.
But here are a few nice snaps of a PO. Congicus in the wild. (Note the lack of heavy plantation...)
Maybe if you didn't come in here from out of the blue guns blazing, you would get a better reception!
@tokyogasmask: could you please tell me, where those pictures were taken? They are great. I guess its near a volcano, since the stones look like lava bombs.
I have expected that polypterids in Lake Turkana would tolerate more alkaline waters, since Lake Turkana is very brakish.
I have expected that polypterids in Lake Turkana would tolerate more alkaline waters, since Lake Turkana is very brakish.
Simply AMAZING, great words..Nice Job ! Congrats man !
Think you need to calm down.
You have come here as a new member, and pretty much insulted anyone who doesn't keep fish the way you prefer.
You are giving it all the yada yada like some kind of know it all, but in reality you DO NOT.
Sure I agree there are many here who have no idea on how to keep any fish, let alone fish such as Arowana, Polypterus etc.
But there are more here who have a very good understanding of the fish.
There are some of us that do more then just keep these fish.
Some of us (myself included) are in direct contact with researchers and scientists (to drop a few names, Prof. dr. Jos Snoeks. Dr. Igarashi and so on) from institutions like the Laboratory of Animal Diversity and Systematics at Leuven University, and the museum of Central Africa.
Helping identify new species and sub-species and reporting back on behavior of said fish in a captive environment, as studies in their natural environment are almost impossible due to dangers posed from regimes in said territories.
Having one of the few known PBB "Turkana" in captivity, I helped report back on PO. Bichir Bichir caught from the northern shallows of Lake Turkana. Helping distinguish differences between them and from locales such as Lake Omo and Lake Chad. Helping to discover the movement patterns of PBB from one area to breed in slightly more Alkaline waters with hints of brackish.
I would say that gives me a right to acknowledge myself as having a good understanding of Polypteridae, and am more than competent at keeping them.
Yet, as I said, none of my tanks (other than for smaller upper jaw species) are planted. (Though all are with substrate/rocks/driftwood)
So according to your expert opinion, I am a useless fish keeper then?
Just to add here, there is a lack of pictures of Polypterus in their natural habitat. Mostly due to the dangers faced getting to the areas.
But here are a few nice snaps of a PO. Congicus in the wild. (Note the lack of heavy plantation...)
Maybe if you didn't come in here from out of the blue guns blazing, you would get a better reception!
You need to check who your talkin to. #1 all of the fish i currently keep are captive bred save the 2 belonesox belizanus, which i am growing out to eventually breed. and my LSN im not sure whether it is CB or wild caught. therefor you cant accuse me of "raping nature".
#2 This forum is ALWAYS very very careful to specify and educate people as to why you should never release a fish into the wild.
If you want to talk about raping nature (as well as consumers and farmers) lets talk about what your beloved monsanto does....bio engeneering grains and other crops that put small time farmers out of business. The very act of engeneering food crops is in essence raping nature. So i dont think we need to hear any more of this clowns jaw flapping.
#2 This forum is ALWAYS very very careful to specify and educate people as to why you should never release a fish into the wild.
If you want to talk about raping nature (as well as consumers and farmers) lets talk about what your beloved monsanto does....bio engeneering grains and other crops that put small time farmers out of business. The very act of engeneering food crops is in essence raping nature. So i dont think we need to hear any more of this clowns jaw flapping.
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