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Dan Feller;1852040; said:
I'm really quite surprised to hear so many MFK'ers advocating opening up wilderness areas for oil drilling. Politics aside, I would think keepers of exotic animals would be in favor of setting aside habitat for wildlife.

Great topic!

Or if nothing else, protect the few untouched areas we have left.
 
honestly if people just walked more and wern't so damn lazy it would help to, probably cut gas prices down by atleast 20%. Instead everybody drives everywhere and carpooling would probably cut it in half.

I mean honestly, there are far better means of transportation than driving everywhere, I mean has everyone forgotten bikes or skateboards?
 
yeah generally id say we have to think about the environment first, but this has just gotten to the point where its really starting to affect the everyday lives of americans. i even read on cnn.com that food banks are starting to hand out pet food because some families cant afford to feed their pets. this has got to stop.

preserving the environment is always a big deal, but what about self preservation? im paying more and more every week for basic necessities like groceries and fuel but my wages stay the same. who knows how many more people will be walking away from their mortgages because of rising prices.

i think drilling in alaska should be seriously considered for some short-term relief to americans as gas prices are getting too high. the long term solution to this is to use find methods of transportation that dont involve gasoline. i think electric is way to go
 
Although I think most of what MustangMan said was crap. I will agree on ethanol, in a way. Ethanol was our false savior from the oil crisis. Even if we turned every grain of corn into ethanol, it would only contribute some 18% of out total annual fuel demand. The only thing that the ethanol hype has done is artificially inflated the price of corn and subsequently, the price of anything produced with corn. Ethanol doesn't burn any cleaner than gasoline. The ratio of ethanol produced to oil consumed to produce it, is about 1.1:1. In other words, it takes 1 gallon of crude to manufacture 1.1 gallons of ethanol. Hardly seems worth the effort, does it?
 
Bsixxx;1852055; said:
honestly if people just walked more and wern't so damn lazy it would help to, probably cut gas prices down by atleast 20%. Instead everybody drives everywhere and carpooling would probably cut it in half.

I mean honestly, there are far better means of transportation than driving everywhere, I mean has everyone forgotten bikes or skateboards?

carpooling is nice in a make believe world, but not in reality. if you and some friends work for the same company, it might work. otherwise, its a hassle thats not worth dealing with.

as far as biking, walking etc, that wont work for me and most other people. i live about 45 miles away from work. id love to use public transportation but there's nothing in my area for this.

these solutions are nice when seen on paper, but in reality do squat to help out
 
Bsixxx;1852055; said:
honestly if people just walked more and wern't so damn lazy it would help to, probably cut gas prices down by atleast 20%. Instead everybody drives everywhere and carpooling would probably cut it in half.

I mean honestly, there are far better means of transportation than driving everywhere, I mean has everyone forgotten bikes or skateboards?

Good point, though things such as bikes and skateboards/rollerblades/etc., may not be practical for the majority - especially when so many have moderate commutes, and that in some places, the only way to get there is through main traffic areas where there may be no pedestrian provisions (i.e. - Freeways).

BUT carpooling is totally something that everyone could do, and would yes have a noticeable impact. I think more "Park&Rides", Subways, Trolleys, etc.
should also be tapped into. I HATE buses - ever been behind one, it's like you can feel your lungs withering from the mushroom clouds of smog they leave behind. But there are other, more eco-friendly, and consumer friendly resources available, that could seriously aide in rectification of our crap-style existence right now.
 
I just saw on the news that some companies are starting to pay their employees to ride their bike to work. It's only $3 each way, but it's a good idea!
 
wouldnt work in San Diego. Everyone commutes at least 30 minutes to work.

There would be a lot of sweaty, smelly people. And we would have to wake up at O-dark-30 to get on our Huffy's.

But hey, we would be in shape sweaty smelly people that were saving money. :grinno:
 
jcardona1;1851608; said:
I'm now paying $4.39/gallon for regular lawnmower unleaded.

wtf!?!?!? is there no end in sight!?!? :irked: :irked: :irked: :irked: :irked: :irked:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/04/markets/oil_eia/index.htm?cnn=yes
up here its $1.35.9 a litre. thats $6.12 a gallon. my 92 chev 1/2 ton has a 100 l. tank. boat has a 125 l. tank. $300 just to fill the tanks. ouch. they even refine crude oil into gasoline in my town, and its often more expensive here than in other areas.
 
people's lifestyle will have to change if there's no solution to higher gas prices are found. if you live 30-40 min away from work then you either have to move or find another job closer to home. most likely people will be moving back closer to cities. one of my friend works in the city but lives 1 and 1/2 hour away. after a few months of this he is now thinking of selling his house, rent an apartment, and move closer to the city. i'm sure many are already doing the same.
 
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