Ladies...Ladies...
Please do not ever underestimate the jaw strength of a mature lower jaw bichir.
This is preposterous.
Please do not ever underestimate the jaw strength of a mature lower jaw bichir.
This is preposterous.
Thickness of bichir's scales
- Thread starter King-eL
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polish;3949152; said:
Just bury them. Why would I use any amount of money. They are easy to do. I have some old tread in the media section of the procedures.
King-eL;3949178; said:
I don't know, I didn't know how it was done. This is why I asked. I'll look for your other thread. Thanks
fishguts;3949156; said:
I don't think it will break down that easily from trashing around as they are very well attached to the muscle tissue. Also underneath the the scales have that spikes which holds down to the muscle tissue. Also they are very well compress together. The Dovii have to give it more than just trashing around as the 17" amaira that killed a 14" endli was trashing it around and still no scales came off. The endli died from drowning and stress as the amaira won't let it go. He tried to save the endli but it's hard when a 17" amaira was biting back at him.
Matching up a 20" dovi with a 20" bichir is not equal sizes, the dovi at that length has tons more body mass (width) mouth etc, so that is not a good comparison. Dovi would not be able to bite through a bichir, jaw is not capable of it, as mentioned death would have to be a grab and shake. If you were to match up the dovi and a larger bichir species at full adult sizes, dovi would be the meal.
LoL this thread sounds like a bunch of kids arguing.
"My bichir isnt suppose to be with cichlids, but they cant penetrate the scales so that makes up for him possibly losing to a dovii".
"My fish is meaner than yours, it can kill it."
Then to compare gigas?
lol who cares a bichir can take an ass kicking, and cant fight back. Is that whay your trying to prove, im lost.
"My bichir isnt suppose to be with cichlids, but they cant penetrate the scales so that makes up for him possibly losing to a dovii".
"My fish is meaner than yours, it can kill it."
Then to compare gigas?
lol who cares a bichir can take an ass kicking, and cant fight back. Is that whay your trying to prove, im lost.
meghanashley;3949190; said:
ok so let say your right about the dovii not being able to penetrate it. but a full size dovii is 28 inches and would never be a meal to a poly. like the other guy said this is getting preposterus. theres really no way of knowing for sure its all about op my op still stands as yes but my op could be wrong. lets get onto something else shall we.
Im disappointed for not haven seen this discussion earlier this day.
There is no way that a 20" Dovii could bite/rip a 20" bichir in half, i even doupt a dovii could rip a 10" bichir in half.. Not just because of the scales, also because bichirs spine is very strong and thick, especially in a 20" lower jaw.
Fishguts, with full respect for your knowledge about cichlids, i hardly doubt that you know even half as much about polypteridae body struckture, very few people do.
Also i would like to comments about that bichirs and large cichlids dont go well together. Both of you are kind of right. (El and fishguts)
El is right, in most cases when bichirs with cichlids die is because of starvation. But as FG said large sa/ca cichlids like P. Dovii and C. Umbriferum are cabable of killing a polypterus, rather easily (atleast causing a deadly wound).
But in my opinion and many others MOST cichlids, even highly aggressive cichlids like dovii dont give rats ar*e about bichirs and just swim past them, dont think about them because they dont feel threatened about the bichirs.
These were just my 2 cents to the discussion.
There is no way that a 20" Dovii could bite/rip a 20" bichir in half, i even doupt a dovii could rip a 10" bichir in half.. Not just because of the scales, also because bichirs spine is very strong and thick, especially in a 20" lower jaw.
Fishguts, with full respect for your knowledge about cichlids, i hardly doubt that you know even half as much about polypteridae body struckture, very few people do.
Also i would like to comments about that bichirs and large cichlids dont go well together. Both of you are kind of right. (El and fishguts)
El is right, in most cases when bichirs with cichlids die is because of starvation. But as FG said large sa/ca cichlids like P. Dovii and C. Umbriferum are cabable of killing a polypterus, rather easily (atleast causing a deadly wound).
But in my opinion and many others MOST cichlids, even highly aggressive cichlids like dovii dont give rats ar*e about bichirs and just swim past them, dont think about them because they dont feel threatened about the bichirs.
These were just my 2 cents to the discussion.
your right about the length but my 14 inch jag makes my 15.5 inch ornate look like a baby have to take in mass. give me a 40 inch endi and a 28 inch dovii that would be awesome but never to be seen in aquaria
