Tropical Biotope ?'s

[MyFishEatYourFish]

The rough green tree snake (Opheodrys aestivus). They cost like $20 or so. native to north america.

Now that I think about it I remember seeing a north american mixed species setup before and it looked pretty awesome. Maybe you could do something like that and native fish below... just a thought.

that sounds cool. can i have more than one of those green trees together? i would assume so. a north american herp biotope would be sweet but i really really want red eye tree frogs in there.

 

[logo]

They can be kept communaly idealy with only one male but can be kept with more then one.

Another thing that would be very nice to have would be a built in misting system this way it will keep the humidity up.

 

[MyFishEatYourFish]

i'm going to have an automisting system for sure to simulate seasons, my goal aside from cohabing difference species is to get some reproduction. i know i will have to seperate babies or let nature take care of it so i will be prepared for that.
do you know of any good places to get the tree snakes? what tropical insectivorous snakes are there?

 

[MyFishEatYourFish]

wow i've been looking at the rough green snake and i love them. have you ever had one? if so can you give me any tips i may not find elsehwhere?

 

[logo]

Remember that with the frogs they reproduce in the water so don't get anything that would eat them, the eggs or tadpoles.
I dont know of any place that sells them but I am sure if you went to your lps they could order one for you they are a very readily available species. I have never personally owned one but we have had them at work and the 2 biggest things I would recommend is take them to the vet asap since they are usually heavily parasiticed and put them in a hydration chamber often times by the time you get them home they are severally dehydrated.

 

[MyFishEatYourFish]

thanks logo. i've found a couple of potential sources for them but they are definitely not as readily available as they are in the wild. with the frog eggs and tadpoles i will definitely not have any fish in there that will eat them when i start to hear croaking, also with most tree frogs all i need to do is put leaves only over water that i want the tadpoles to end up in.
i have read alot of things that say the green snakes will not try to eat my frogs but i am still a little skeptical on that. what does everyone else think?
i'm still looking for any imput anyone has and also sources for rough green snakes. i know its hard to get interested on a future project becuase so many wet dreams are posted on hear. so, an update is that i have the main enclosure complete. it is quite large and i am happy with how it turned out, just looks like a wood enclosure now though so unless someones dying to see pics i'll wait till it starts to take shape.
thanks guys

 

[OhHai]

This seems to have disaster written all over it.

There are so many problems with what you are trying to do I can't go over them all right now.

Humidity, Temps, unwanted predation, different required ventilation requirements, sanitation, competition for food, stress, disease, etc.

It looks like you are more concerned with having as large a palette of animals as possible without too much care on proper husbandry techniques. With some of the animals you've mentioned it isn't even advisable to have different geographical regions of the same species mix. It's a recipe for disaster.

You said you had experience only with the roaches. No offense to you but I don't think you have the expertise or knowledge to pull this off successfully.

 

[MyFishEatYourFish]

This seems to have disaster written all over it.

There are so many problems with what you are trying to do I can't go over them all right now.

Humidity, Temps, unwanted predation, different required ventilation requirements, sanitation, competition for food, stress, disease, etc.

It looks like you are more concerned with having as large a palette of animals as possible without too much care on proper husbandry techniques. With some of the animals you've mentioned it isn't even advisable to have different geographical regions of the same species mix. It's a recipe for disaster.

You said you had experience only with the roaches. No offense to you but I don't think you have the expertise or knowledge to pull this off successfully.

probably not, but i'm gonna try.
and i have experience with a few herps just none of the ones that i want in this thing except for the red eyes, but not much with them. thats why i'm doing research.
as far as different requirements go for the different species, that the whole point, there's going to be quite a range of habitats and niches in this thing, i'm not just tossing a bunch of random animals into a tub.
i'm really set on doing this and its been a goal of mine fore qutie a while, so there's no talking me out of it.
thank you though, all input is appreciated, positive or negative. if you feel like it, i would like to hear all your reasons why you don't think this won't work.

 

[kearth]

I am telling you Red eyes are a bad idea. Luckily they probably wont breed in there any ways. Red eyes are a sensitive frog = not a good idea.

 

[MyFishEatYourFish]

I am telling you Red eyes are a bad idea. Luckily they probably wont breed in there any ways. Red eyes are a sensitive frog = not a good idea.

thanks kearth. i really love them so i will just cater to there needs a bit more than the rest. i've had them before and didn't think they were that difficult.