If you're cool with letting your ray suffer, and die.. good for you.
Rays don't take this long to heal- period.
Rays don't take this long to heal- period.
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mshill he is doing everything he can think of and try to keep it alive. i hope well for him and wish him luck. the ray is still young and can still have a great life ahead of it so please if you dont have anything to help in this situation sometimes its best to refrain from posting as it does no one any good.
i would try hard for any one of my rays as well. its not about the money i spent on them but what they mean to me. my rays are like my family, and my family would fight to pull through this to live.
good luck calgary, i wonder if big peices of driftwood in the sump would help lower it. i have high ph as well but my rays seem to do fine.
i would try hard for any one of my rays as well. its not about the money i spent on them but what they mean to me. my rays are like my family, and my family would fight to pull through this to live.
good luck calgary, i wonder if big peices of driftwood in the sump would help lower it. i have high ph as well but my rays seem to do fine.
mshill90;5057543; said:
The fish came in I'n bad shape I saw it and xingu ray that came with it they were I'n pretty bad shape the xingu was pretty much Doa and this bd was paper thin floating upside down. This guy has given his 110% for his ray. Lik I said bud if u need the kanaplex I bought right before they made it illegal to import.
Good luck
DavidW;5058042; said:
No, it would be a fail if he didn't let the ray get this bad.
It hasn't eaten in 5 weeks, and it's pelvic bones are showing..
How much longer is he going to let the ray suffer like this?
I was in no way trying to be rude, but this ray has a gaping hole in it's body, and the guy is doing all he can yes, but when is it time to say "look, I did everything I could, but it's time to say enough is enough."
A few weeks back a guy offered him kanaplex- based on the recent post today he never took the offer. Maybe he should have.
Maybe he just need to step back, and start all over.
mshill90;5058160; said:
ray wounds don't heal over night.
they take weeks to heal. especially a wound of this magnitude.
you've just started keeping rays. have your rays taken any real wounds that you've had to deal with and wait for them to heal? if not, you cannot speak from experience.
i personally think it's great how much he has been doing for this ray and if something were to happen to mine, i would do exactly the same thing to get it to pull through.
telling him to kill his fish is like pulling the plug on your parents or sibling for having been burned in a fire.. they can still pull through.
hereticlosmorte;5058412; said:
I know that they do not heal over night, but in about a week or 2 they start to show signs that they are healing.
One of my rays got heater burn... a mark about 4 inches in length. The skin peeled off, and the wound was bloody, and raw.
After keeping on my water change schedule, a week later the wound is healing, and there is only a small part of pink skin showing.
This is a fish- this is not a human being. You're example is completely different. While his ray is being kept in a tank and not being treated with anything, or anything else being done- where as a human would be in the hospital being cared for.
How much pain do you think this ray is in? Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, it's suffering. He either needs to get on the ball and try something or it's going to die.
If he's not going to try anything, then he's just letting it suffer longer than it needs to.
I would do the same thing he has been doing, but there are limits to everything and some people just don't know when to let things go.
I don't see him trying anything to help this rays condition- so it's like watching a dog die from heartworm because you don't want to get treatments, or you just can't decide what to do.
mshill90;5058467; said:
we could say the same thing that you did then. the fail is causing the rays condition in the first place. heater burn? everyone who does any research will know that you HAVE to cover your heaters or the rays will burn themselves on it. i've never kept uncovered heaters in my ray tanks since i started on them.
hereticlosmorte;5058503; said:
They have covers on them, but one of the suction cups came off in the tank, and the cover came off.
They are not glass heaters, and my eels lay on them with no burns at all.
HE DIDN'T CAUSE THE CONDITION- FROM WHAT WAS SAID, IT WAS BROUGHT IN THAT WAY- SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
HE'S NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE WITH THIS SITUATION IF THE OUTCOME IS TO GET BETTER!!!
5 WEEKS WITHOUT EATING- EH, NO BIG DEAL RIGHT?
mshill90;5058160; said:
mshill90;5058517; said:They have covers on them, but one of the suction cups came off in the tank, and the cover came off.
They are not glass heaters, and my eels lay on them with no burns at all.
HE DIDN'T CAUSE THE CONDITION- FROM WHAT WAS SAID, IT WAS BROUGHT IN THAT WAY- SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
HE'S NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE WITH THIS SITUATION IF THE OUTCOME IS TO GET BETTER!!!
5 WEEKS WITHOUT EATING- EH, NO BIG DEAL RIGHT?
see this right here? it came in like that.
so the ray's injury was not his fault. we knew that.
when a ray that is injured and becomes stressed, is then shipped inducing more stress, and then being acclimated into a brand new tank adding yet more stress..... do you REALLY think it's immune system is gonna be up to the challenge of healing it up without any other problems? with its immune system that stressed and compromised, you're damn right secondary infections are gonna happen.
yeah, maybe he should have added some meds. but are you certain that in doing so wouldn't have caused it enough stress to put it over the top and finish the poor thing?
i'm not personally attacking you, but it's not all black and white.
