Utah to use execution by firing squad on Friday

[08trdoffroad]

what a lively conversation lol. the guy has a violent history and has knowingly murderd twice. he knew he would be screwed if he was caught but didnt care. he deserves to die and hes past the point of return. once a murderer always a murderer. no therapy could take away the fact that hes capable of killing a human being with no regrets

I agree!

His major arguement for clemency is he claims he is a changed man, but even in prison he has been violent. He has assaulted officers, even stabbed another inmate. I am glad the Board saw right through his crap. Friday morning at 12:01 am can not come soon enough!

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

can anybody decipher what rfbm said? lol

 

[frasertheking]

That's almost the exact sentence I was about to type. But with different, more helpful parameters concerning consequences. We both want a better society. In yours, it's okay for people to be killed for killing, thereby doubling deaths. In mine, it is okay for people to be treated for what leads them to kill, thereby halving deaths. If you went int a junior high school and explained homicidal thinking to the students and gave out a card with a number they could call to GET HELP for the rage and murder fantasies playing out in their heads, they could be helped before anyone is hurt. It's okay to get help for almost any illness these days. But nobody is okay admitting they think about killing people, planning it, mentally choosing weapons, etc. If it were okay to talk about it, people could get help.


All these comments I'm seeing about what he was convicted of, what he plead to, etc. are beside the point. They are circumstantial. What's key here is the idea of not killing people who are confused, angry and distorted.

you really have a warped view of the world dont you ?
you keep making out these monsters are not responsible for what they do ,sure we should be treating these people but premedatated murder is not the same as killing in the heat of emotion.
these people plan this murder they are mentaly ill , can they be cured ? no just like the church tried to cure homosexuality it is not possible it is not a choice.
these people are animals all we can do is put them down for are own safety.

it disturbs me that you care so little for your wife you would put her in danger by having a monster like him in your house.

people who say an eye for an eye are most definatly wrong
if someone raped your daughter and the father killed him does he deserve to die ? i think not

i always find it funny how people debate death for one monster for years while heroic people in the army die every year but we hardy give it a second thought, Why does a monster deserve more rights that someone protecting there family and country?

 

[komodo182]

That's almost the exact sentence I was about to type. But with different, more helpful parameters concerning consequences. We both want a better society. In yours, it's okay for people to be killed for killing, thereby doubling deaths. In mine, it is okay for people to be treated for what leads them to kill, thereby halving deaths. If you went int a junior high school and explained homicidal thinking to the students and gave out a card with a number they could call to GET HELP for the rage and murder fantasies playing out in their heads, they could be helped before anyone is hurt. It's okay to get help for almost any illness these days. But nobody is okay admitting they think about killing people, planning it, mentally choosing weapons, etc. If it were okay to talk about it, people could get help.


All these comments I'm seeing about what he was convicted of, what he plead to, etc. are beside the point. They are circumstantial. What's key here is the idea of not killing people who are confused, angry and distorted.

If he was killed the first murder, that would lower the death rate. Everyone is happy now.

 

[08trdoffroad]

this law is held in Texas to because the "Death Penalty" which not guns its lethal injection now but its still good to make people think twice for doing a ridiculous thing..but i dont see how people are twisted to say its sweet how is it sweet its not sweet its just good that there doing this they did it back then and theyll do it now

I will try to decipher...

He is saying, in Texas they do have the death penalty, but it is not by firing squad. They use lethal injection. Even tho it is not as big a deterent as say death by fire squad would be, lethal injection still makes people think twice about commiting a serious crime.

He then goes on to say he doesn't understand why people get excited about the fact that someone is going to be put to death. It is not cool. But it is a good thing they are doing it, because the person killed once and they would probably kill again now.


There that is my best attempt at translating what he said...ha ha!

 

[frasertheking]

this law is held in Texas to because the "Death Penalty" which not guns its lethal injection now but its still good to make people think twice for doing a ridiculous thing..but i dont see how people are twisted to say its sweet how is it sweet its not sweet its just good that there doing this they did it back then and theyll do it now

which reminds me kids

Dont smoke crack

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

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water sucks, it really really sucks

 

[08trdoffroad]

hahaha, gatorade.... H2O!!!! gaaaaatorade...... H2O!!!!
water sucks, it really really sucks

 

[fallin49er]

So you are saying all of these violent crimes can be avoided if we just "educate" these people that have the tendancy to want to commit violent crimes? How does one predeterimine and then diagnose a flaw in a person's ability to make a morally correct decision if the opportunity to make that decision has yet to be presented to that individual? Just curious...

 

[08trdoffroad]

So you are saying all of these violent crimes can be avoided if we just "educate" these people that have the tendancy to want to commit violent crimes? How does one predeterimine and then diagnose a flaw in a person's ability to make a morally correct decision if the opportunity to make that decision has yet to be presented to that individual? Just curious...

That is a very good question!