Utah to use execution by firing squad on Friday

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ozz465;4215306; said:
I am in favor of the death penalty for not just murder ,
for the folowing as well
rapist
pedophiles
murderers
and any like these
sure we can try to rehab them but there isnt any guarantee they wont destroy a life again unless there dead , that's the only 100% way . sure a few can be rehabbed and lead productive lives but why put the innocent public at risk? to justify someones sense of morality? sorry but i don't ever want to risk my family to such people.

and yes i do wish child rapist got the death penalty as well, they pretty much destroy a child's life and may lead to said children committing like crimes in the future.

bottom line why risk the public just to fill some sense of morality?

spot on.

if the death penalty was introduced in the uk i'd support it. there are animals out there and whether they say they have changed or not is complete rubbish imo. how can you trust people like this around kids and vulnerable people in general?
 
knifegill;4215324; said:
Murderers are the public, too.
not even remotely what i meant .
West1;4215325; said:
Keep your day job Oozer:ROFL:.
I hear ya though. Rappist are better off in jail for 50+years in general population. Thats worst than the death penalty IMO:D... Ouch:cry::nutkick:
nah i dont see why they should live , they also destroy people in a way , i admit not a killing but at times just as bad . what benefit does it provide for them to continue to live and eventually get back out ?? Ill go as far as life in prison in gen pop .
 
Neervana;4215331; said:
spot on.

if the death penalty was introduced in the uk i'd support it. there are animals out there and whether they say they have changed or not is complete rubbish imo. how can you trust people like this around kids and vulnerable people in general?
Exactly , what will people say to the family and friends of a once convicted killer or rapist that served his or her's time and re committed the crime?

"oh sorry he deserved a second chance"? Screw that .


on a lighter note ,
BTw neer great hair .
 
These comments are so odd and off-base that I don't think I need to address them, but I'll touch lightly anyway. Yes, a killer is responsible and accountable for what they have done. And they should pay. By paying. Not by dying.
If the mentally ill can't be cured, why does it happen every day?
Are you calling homosexuality a mental illness?!
If people can be animals, where are your slaves?

im saying you can not cure a monster the same way you cant cure a homosexuality of his sexual preference
im not saying its wrong im all for ***s doing there thing just you cant make an apple an orange the same way you cant make a person who gets a physical and mental thrill from killing into a person capable of functioning in are socity.
if you all want to keep these people and cure them fine then it should be a charity and not state provided so the people who want to keep these monsters in the worold can bare the weight and responsibility for what happens.

id take the strain of shooting a monster and feel fine knowing id prevent the death of an innocent mother sister daughter and so on
 
ozz465;4215344; said:
Exactly , what will people say to the family and friends of a once convicted killer or rapist that served his or her's time and re committed the crime?

"oh sorry he deserved a second chance"? Screw that .


on a lighter note ,
BTw neer great hair .

why does he deserve a second chance if the crime is worthy of death.
 
frasertheking;4215359; said:
why does he deserve a second chance if the crime is worthy of death.
I agree , the guy should have been executed for the 1st crime , but i hear all the time people getting out after 15 odd years and sometimes doing it again , why should they get a second chance and the people they destroyed will never get that ?
 
knifegill;4215270;4215270 said:
Aaaah! Step away for a second and I'm two pages behind!

Short answers for me:
Yes, these people acted like monsters. Killing them won't bring back the babies. These killers, abusers, rapers, etc. are made of the same building blocks we are. They're just put together wrong. THey put themselves as top priority and ignore or enjoy the suffering they cause. This can be corrected. I don't see why that's so hard to accept.

Yes, yes! That's it! That's what I'm saying. For predetermining, there are sociological predispositions, potential genetic predispositions, and even more factors that allow efforts to be focused on the most troubled groups. The educators, parents and other 'people builders' simply need to know what to watch for, types of behavior that indicate the child in question is trapped in their thoughts, depressed, etc. Then they find the right kind of counselor who can train the child through journaling and involvement in personality-strengthening activities, etc. You see what I mean. And it almost already happens, except that it's currently missing the people who might need it most.


These comments are so odd and off-base that I don't think I need to address them, but I'll touch lightly anyway. Yes, a killer is responsible and accountable for what they have done. And they should pay. By paying. Not by dying.
If the mentally ill can't be cured, why does it happen every day?
Are you calling homosexuality a mental illness?!
If people can be animals, where are your slaves?

This sentence is in opposition to everything else you are saying.

How is killing people heroic? And why would killers have rights? They'd have decades fo proving themselves and always be branded as killers. I'm saying 'don't kill them' not 'bow down to them'.
All I can really say in response to this is....show me one case study where this "predetermined couseling" has been able to identify and then prevent a person with these so-called negative traits, who have never committed a crime mind you, from committing future heinous acts. How do you deem this type of treatment successful?
 
frasertheking;4215351; said:
These comments are so odd and off-base that I don't think I need to address them, but I'll touch lightly anyway. Yes, a killer is responsible and accountable for what they have done. And they should pay. By paying. Not by dying.
If the mentally ill can't be cured, why does it happen every day?
Are you calling homosexuality a mental illness?!
If people can be animals, where are your slaves?

im saying you can not cure a monster the same way you cant cure a homosexuality of his sexual preference
im not saying its wrong im all for ***s doing there thing just you cant make an apple an orange the same way you cant make a person who gets a physical and mental thrill from killing into a person capable of functioning in are socity.
if you all want to keep these people and cure them fine then it should be a charity and not state provided so the people who want to keep these monsters in the worold can bare the weight and responsibility for what happens.

id take the strain of shooting a monster and feel fine knowing id prevent the death of an innocent mother sister daughter and so on

The homo thing is just a fashion but that's a diff thread Lol (IMO)

However, I do like your closing paragraph.
 
ozz465;4215369; said:
I agree , the guy should have been executed for the 1st crime , but i hear all the time people getting out after 15 odd years and sometimes doing it again , why should they get a second chance and the people they destroyed will never get that ?
exactly if we are looking at it logicaly and they can be cured lets weigh up the options
one life plus family who most lilly have disowned him for his repeated crimes

for say a normal mother

One lost daughter one lost mother one lost wife so how many life's are completely destroyed ? how many people have to suffer just for this animal to have a second chance ?
 
Having read the thread I have to disagree that this person had no choice in his actions as a result of his childhood.

My first dad was a raving navy drunk who dragged my mother down the street by her hair when she was six months preggers with me. And saddly her second hubby was also a bad choice who tended to love using various things like electrical cords and such as a form of discipline.

I believe we are the progenitor of our own destiny. We have the power of choice.

I made the choice when I was tempted to take care of matters that such would be a very bad course of action, considering the end result of such gambit.

I also made the choice that when my time came to be a husband and father that I was not going to repeat the sins of my father or my step father.

Regarding this individual, had he become a changed man before killing 2 people in escape attempts I might think differently. Yet, he is indeed guilty of killing not 1 but 2 innocent people and therefore deservedly will take a couple of bullets.

If I were behind the rifle I would make sure that my aim was a bit low so as to make it a bit messy!!!!
 
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