Went To Alligator Alley

[Louie]

thats nice Chain pickerel, not pike but a closest relative

Chain pickerel thanks. I don't know natives that well.

It is a great looking fish. I would have let it go . Sad to see such a magnificent fish flopping around in a parking lot.

 

[Louie]

Went around our lake today. Still did not see any dead fish floating around. If they died during the freezing temps recently they would have surfaced by now and the whole neighborhood would be stinky.

Saw numerous tilapia foraging by the walls of the lake, and a lone juvenile PB around 5 inches lurking by the shoreline waiting for his snack. Also saw two huge Pacus, at least 2 feet each roaming around. I've seen some adult PBs earlier in the week but not today.

Had my camera ready to take pics but no PB showed up for picture taking.

This will have to do for now. A picture of PB survivors of the 2010 freeze in the garage tank, they were hatched from eggs collected last August.

Thats a lot of PB. Imagine they only take feeders?

I went fishing Sat and Mayans,talipia are still being caught but in area known for Jags and Oscars none caught.

I am sure enough lived in deeper areas to "restock" the waters however it will take years .

 

[MN_Rebel]

Thats a lot of PB. Imagine they only take feeders?

I went fishing Sat and Mayans,talipia are still being caught but in area known for Jags and Oscars none caught.

I am sure enough lived in deeper areas to "restock" the waters however it will take years .

eh, just wait for our idiots dumping their unwanted fish in the canals, it will boost up the populations back.

 

[CFLfish]

The fail smells strong in this thread. Good riddance to all the non-natives. Whoever the dumb-butt was that said that non-native fishes are part of our eco-system and doesn't do any harm should be banned for life.

 

[MN_Rebel]

The fail smells strong in this thread. Good riddance to all the non-natives. Whoever the dumb-butt was that said that non-native fishes are part of our eco-system and doesn't do any harm should be banned for life.

Wow you cant be serious....No one said non native are part of our ecosystem but they are actually part of ecosystem because they got involved in the ecosystem. I hasnt heard any negative impacts on natives from non native fishes so far (that is in Florida)

 

[CFLfish]

Wow you cant be serious....No one said non native are part of our ecosystem but they are actually part of ecosystem because they got involved in the ecosystem. I hasnt heard any negative impacts on natives from non native fishes so far (that is in Florida)

I'm dead serious. LOL, ignorant people like you really make me wanna pull my hair out. Just because you "hasn't" heard of the damage done doesn't mean every things peachy. Every time one of our beloved cichlids or cichlas enter our water system it replaces a snook, tarpon, large mouth bass, speck... I could keep on going on and on. And as a fisherman, that really pisses me the hell off. So next time you start typing a post do some research and save yourself some embarrassment buddy.

And heres the one that said that there's no harm in invasive species. Again, do some research before typing to save your self a little embarrassment.

The non natives here are harmless . Keep in mind these canals which most thrive in are man made .Peacock bass will starve without them(if any PB are left)

Without them canals are empty of life other than mosaquito fish . Putting that aside the gars (I think native) and native bull head cats death is brutal.

this guy's a real winner huh? ^

 

[MN_Rebel]

I'm dead serious. LOL, ignorant people like you really make me wanna pull my hair out. Just because you "hasn't" heard of the damage down doesn't mean every things peachy. Everytime one of our beloved cichlids or cichlas enter our water system it repleces a snook, tarpon, large mouth bass, speck... I could keep on going on and on. And as a fisherman, that really pisses me the hell off. So next time you start typing a post do some research and save yourself some embarrassment buddy.

Hold on buddy! The non natives dont put a dent on native populations. Cichlids and these brackish sportfish dont even breed in same areas. So tell me how these cichlid/cichla hurts our native populations?

 

[CFLfish]

Hold on buddy! The non natives dont put a dent on native populations. Cichlids and these brackish sportfish dont even breed in same areas. So tell me how these cichlid/cichla hurts our native populations?

tomorrow i'll show you some pictures near my house in cocoa beach, Fl with all the Mayan cichlids living in almost 100% salt water. THOUSANDS are dead in our SALT WATER estuaries thank god. If you don't believe me look up the Indian River lagoon system and check it out.

 

[CFLfish]

well from most of your previous comments on this thread....you seems pretty jack-ass, you dont have to be being dick thats all.

I feel very strongly about this topic. If I come off bad, so be it.

 

[Superlaz]

so if they belong why are they dieing? They are not suited for the environment.

I didnt say they belong. The fact they are non native makes that self explanatory.

Went around our lake today. Still did not see any dead fish floating around. If they died during the freezing temps recently they would have surfaced by now and the whole neighborhood would be stinky.

Saw numerous tilapia foraging by the walls of the lake, and a lone juvenile PB around 5 inches lurking by the shoreline waiting for his snack. Also saw two huge Pacus, at least 2 feet each roaming around. I've seen some adult PBs earlier in the week but not today.

Had my camera ready to take pics but no PB showed up for picture taking.

This will have to do for now. A picture of PB survivors of the 2010 freeze in the garage tank, they were hatched from eggs collected last August.

Nice Batch Matt, see a few 2 spotters

you will always have some native die off

Thats correct, but not at the levels we were just hit with. Exotics aside, our fish populations took a real hit. If the Exotics were eliminated over something like this, then so be it. That's not the issue, no matter how much some of you try and make it. My point is this all out 'destroy' all non natives in South FL mentality is ignorant and pointless.

#1 Its impossible, #2 they arent affecting things the way so many fear. As mentioned before, they have been doing fine along natives, and natives along exotics for many years now. Should it be controlled? Definitely.

The fail smells strong in this thread. Good riddance to all the non-natives. Whoever the dumb-butt was that said that non-native fishes are part of our eco-system and doesn't do any harm should be banned for life.

Saw quite a few Tilapia, Pbass, Jewel cichlids, LMB, and sunfish today. Guess both Natives and Exotics will be fine.

I'm dead serious. LOL, ignorant people like you really make me wanna pull my hair out. Just because you "hasn't" heard of the damage done doesn't mean every things peachy. Every time one of our beloved cichlids or cichlas enter our water system it replaces a snook, tarpon, large mouth bass, speck... I could keep on going on and on. And as a fisherman, that really pisses me the hell off. So next time you start typing a post do some research and save yourself some embarrassment buddy.

And heres the one that said that there's no harm in invasive species. Again, do some research before typing to save your self a little embarrassment.



this guy's a real winner huh? ^

Well for starters, Cichla are introduced by F&W. As for the research comment, goes both ways. This coming from an avid fisherman. I take CFL implies you are in Central FL, as well as the 'local' pacu thread you posted? If so, There is a difference in central and SOuth FL. If this is the case, I understand where you are coming from as the farther you go from the Broward county line, the more waterways resemble the rest of the country. Which brings me back to my original post...If you don't know what you're comparing, best you dont