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Believe me, if you have to study for years and pass exams to become a reptile specialist vet in the UK... I think you can quite safely say that they know what they are doing. If the vet hadn't of checked, I would be open for discussion to this, but the person I bought her from had many iguanas (male and female) and said she was female, I'm the one who keeps her, so one picture can be misleading, you wouldn't know till you saw her in real life. The vet checked the pores too, because I myself said I thought she looked abit like a male when I got her, but she said no she is definately female. I'm not trying to argue neither, I just don't think anyone on here (unless you are a vet) has any place to suggest (?) the vet is wrong? The cheek scale thing does look large on that picture but that's probably because of the display she was doing, as it looks alot smaller now (as I'm looking at her) and also is only around 4 foot (no she hasn't got a stubbed tail or been kept in a tiny enclosure all her life) but it's your opinion and ya all are entitled to it :)
 
Just calling it how I saw it. I wish reptile vets here in the U.S. were required to study more about herps as they evidently do over there in the UK. That played some part in my skepticism as many herp vets do less than I do.

I would like to point out a small error in part of your statement. Just because someone isn't a veterinarian doesn't mean they are incapable of knowing more than a vet. As I eluded to earlier, many vets have been proven wrong by non-vets. I'm glad to hear that doesn't happen too much in your neck of the woods, but it happens here, much to my regret. Here some examples of fairly knowledgeable "non-veterinarians." (although some of them have studied herpetology in universities):

Jeff Corwin
Mark O'Shea
Steve Irwin (no college experience whatsoever)
Jules Sylvester (also no academic experience)
Nigel Marven

While their TV personalities & methods may be subject to question, you cannot argue that these guys don't know a thing or two about herps.
 
I can see where Ophi is coming from... it is very common for a vet in North America to not know anything about exotic pets and just go off what is said online or at a pet store, and not referring to a medical textbook.

However there are good vets, you just need to get yourself in a network of reputable friends in order to find them.
 
Very nice Jessica.

I love your iggy...to me she looks like a female with maybe a bit unusually long spikes. Males at that maturity level that I've observed tend to have bigger/wider heads, lower hanging dewlaps, and a bit of bulge/thickening around the vent. Honestly looking quickly at the pic I thought "male", and if I had to guess I'd have guessed male...but knowing the vet confirmed female and looking again I'd agree.

How's that for some waffling eh? :)
 
Ophi I never, ever suggested other people don't know what they doing. I'm not one to comment on the likes of Steve Irwin, because I don't know every little thing he knows and doesn't, but unless you know any steve irwins on here who's parents own a very famous zoo and probably taught them everything they know then this don't really count. I was talking about the average annies on here, who, whilst very experienced are NOT qualified on anatomy, all the insides of reptiles, well tbh just about qualified in anything. You are taking this WAY to seriously, and you know full well what I mean. I was the first to say your very experienced, and I will say the same for many on here, but until they are qualified, working, highly popular and high paid (because of their popularity and success) vets, I will stick with my vet who has always done good for me. Like I said, you are taking this way to seriously IMO, and are going into every tiny detail when not needed. Tell me that if, you found an ideal reputable vet who had studied for years and was highly qualified, that you would trust people on here for health issues etc rather than this vet? I have no doubt vets have been proved wrong, not everybody can be right all the time, but this really is a silly matter to get into, because I know almost (if not all) on this website would rather go to a reputable vet than just come online for answers to health issues, so lets stop the silliness and precisness. I see your point though, I don't know about the USA but I know in the UK there are SO many rules and regulations, it just shows it with what we cannot keep without a license, where as in the US you can. I just don't think, that until you have seen this iguana in the flesh, or anybody has for that matter, has right to question the vet who comfirmed 3 other peoples (and past owners) guesses (?) that it was indeed female. I'm sure you will agree? You cannot start a large discussion about this from one picture I'm afraid, although it would definately, be an interesting one. Tbh I wouldn't kick up a fuss about this if I weren't sure of her sex, because I am not really assed whether she is male or female, and would appreciate peoples input (as I do), the only reason I am is because it's coming into something a little more than 'she looks male', people are now telling me to check her pores etc. Honestly not starting an argument this discussion is quite interesting and hopefully will get alot of other peoples opinions too.
CTUFAN Thanks for the support. I have a few pictures where I know most would totally change their mind, because you can Lucky's head without her puffing out/displaying, and you can tell at a glance she is female. Her jaw and head is evident to that of a female and is a totally different shape, size and build to a males, it is much MUCH smaller. As for her spikes, its not one go on alone tbh, there will be a few female iggys out there with slightly longer spikes than the rest.
 
Are YOU not one of the "average annies" here as well Jessica??? Because you seem to have no problem tearing somone down for thier opinion while at the same time throwing yours around. ;)
And I have to HONESTLY agree with Ophi on this one, I have come across more than one vet here who knows nothing more about herps than the average pet store owner, and they HAVE BEEN through years of school and ARE making a ton of money.

So why dont you take a break from the dramatics for once and just enjoy the conversation.
 
Walls of course I am an average annie.. which is why I went to the vets for the checkup and asked for them to check the sex whilst I was there. I never suggested I wasn't like everybody else on this forum so don't take offence. You seem to have missed the part where I said 'Though very experienced' are NOT qualified. As for tearing somebody down for their opinion.. I am not. I am simply discussing and also saying my opinion, this is absolutely no different to what Ophi is doing. So why am I getting the crap for it and not ophi too? Ohh I know. Because you happen to agree with his opinion. Which I don't have a problem with, aslong as you agree to disagree and except it when other (myself included) put their opinions across. That is all I am doing so please accept it, like I am with ophi. Just because I am disgreeing and discussing, does NOT mean I don't accept his opinion, which if you read the threads carefully, I have mentioned that I do again and again so people don't try and accuse me of attacking him just for disagreeing. Really, how am I doing anything different from Ophi? Please give me a few good examples of how I am and I will be more than happy to admit I'm wrong :)
 
As for what you stated about vets, I don't know anything about laws etc in USA so I cant comment on that. But what I do know is that here in the UK, you need to have so many qualifications and need to have studies for so long to become a vet and you need to have experience too (work experience along side an already qualified vet) to get to that point. So if indeed you don't know your stuff, and certainly more than the 'average annie' on health issues, and just take everything from online sources and books you will most likely get sacked and have to go to court. So let's not argue about vets, because it obviously differs from country to country. If I was living in the US, or anywhere else for that matter, I could take your point, so I do see where you are coming from, and accept that vets may not be as reliable in other places. :)
 
"because I know almost (if not all) on this website would rather go to a reputable vet than just come online for answers to health issues, so lets stop the silliness and precisness"

I think its the comments you make like this one that gets under my skin. Someone with more experience gives an opinion and you tear it down by belittling the person. Agreeing to disagree is great, we all have done it here, but letting sny comments fly for no reason is unneccesary (sp) LOL!
 
Fair enough, I think you probably took my comment the wrong way, it was NOT meant to belitte anybody so sorry if it come across that way. I got fed up because I felt no matter what I said, he would look to prove me wrong on something. So maybe I took it wrong.. I don't know till he tells me.. but thats why I can understand if you interpreted what I said different from how I meant it.. because thats the way I interpreted Ophi. The silliness and preciness was never EVER meant to belittle him.. I am not that sad to do that to somebody simply for giving an opinion. I said that because he was trying to prove me wrong with the argument 'Well vets are proved wrong' when to be quite frank, overall I would say most vets anywhere know more than the 'average annie ;)'
Do you understand now? However, I don't accept ya point as a reason for why I am doing any different to Ophi. Though just for anybody who reads my posts, I do not nor try to belitte anybody simply because they know their stuff. If I did why would I give him credit for being experienced in another post walls ? Makes no sense ;)
 
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