Asian reds not on the red list?

[jlnguyen74]

They are still caught and traded. Do you really think that they aren't? I'll look for the article. I posted it before.

I didn't say they aren't, did I? I said, "It's prohibit..."

 

[ewurm]

I didn't say they aren't, did I? I said, "It's prohibit..."

And you laughed at my insinuation that the Asian Arowana is still fished for a profit. I did my research.

 

[SimonL]

Ewurm, don't you know people never do prohibited things for profit? Someone should tell all the drug dealers of the world, they must have missed a memo on it being illegal or something...

 

[jlnguyen74]

And you laughed at my insinuation that the Asian Arowana is still fished for a profit. I did my research.

You got it wrong! I just laughed at the "link" and "picture" part

 

[ewurm]

You got it wrong! I just laughed at the "link" and "picture" part

Do some research, and you'll find out that it's prohibit to capture or sell wild Asian arowana everywhere in the world That's the reason why the farm tag Asian arowana.

I don't see the correlation. My supposed lack of research showed exactly why there are very few "link" and "picture" of wild caught Asian Arowanas, including the red ones.

 

[sostoudt]

Red devils are most definitely not algae eaters...and what does that have to do with your argument that colour would attract predators?

Bears? Seriously? We're talking about fish, there are no "colorful" mammals period...

If wild arowanas were not colourful, why were they collected almost to extinction, in the first place?

i also said colored predators would be more visable to the prey also. animals that eat algae and invertabretes need less stealth then ones that catch fish, imo.
the red devils do catch small fish tho.
but yes there are colorful fish in the world.
and there are also fish that arent colorful, like bass, nurse shark, atlantic cod, mosquito fish, etc.

also i could give you examples of fish that where plain looking but became very good looking after selective breeding, such as guppies or koi

i dont think wild aros could be comparable at all to ones we bred for color.

however we could argue all day about how likely it is they have color. but im hoping for someone with actual information, so i think we will end this in disagreement unless someone happens to provide a picture of a average wild red.

 

[jlnguyen74]

I don't see the correlation. My lack of research showed exactly why there are very few "link" and "picture" of wild caught Asian Arowanas, including the red ones.

That's right! And that's why when I see "link" and "picture" in the same sentence with "wild caught Asian Aro," it looks and sounds funny to me.

 

[ewurm]

, so i think we will end this in disagreement unless someone happens to provide a picture of a average wild red.

The lack of wild caught photos shows just how much the population has been decimated. Apparently the color is apprciable enough to endanger the species.

 

[ewurm]

That's right! And that's why when I see "link" and "picture" in the same sentence with "wild caught Asian Aro," it looks and sounds funny to me.

It's funny that the value of the Asian Arowana has led to it's endangerment? Or are you saying that the Asian Arowana is not endangered?

 

[jlnguyen74]

The lack of wild caught photos shows just how much the population has been decimated. Apparently the color is apprciable enough to endanger the species.

IMO, the lack of wild caught photos doesn't represent the population, just like it kind of hard to find a picture of someone selling drug, or doing drug. In addition, the endanger of the species doesn't represent that they are appreciated. On the contrary, due to the lack of appreciation, habitat is destroyed, or they're massively caught mainly for food source from local people is one of the reasons that put the species in endanger status.