Black Pete

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No,I don't know if its true or not,never heard of it before,but discussions about the president borders on political talk which is not allowed here on MFK.
 
The lyrics from the sinterklaas song? Okay I'll look them up and sort of try to translate them. But I don't remember that is was an offensive song? Maybe you mean another song since their is more then one.

The best-known one is "daarginds komt de stoomboot" which is something like "there comes the steamboat (if that is even the correct word for it). You mean that one?

I'm not sure which song.
It sounded like it would be ZP that sung it ?!
"Even if my face is..." were some of the lyrics
 
Oh I see excuse me, I had no idea that it wasn't allowed.

That song about his black servant is sort of offensive to people I guess.
I can't remember a song where they sing black as coal though.

And this part is absolutely based on nothing:
As I hinted in the first paragraph, Zwarte Piet is not the only sign that the Dutch have a problem with race. Dutch society also has more subtle ways of reminding black people of their place and keeping them there.

I am pretty sure the Dutch are one of the more acceptable people in this world. We have to take crap like this all the time and have to be careful about what we say all the time because it might be offensive.
All while at the same time muslims continue to claim their so-called rights like slaughtering animals like a caveman with a knife or however they do it.

This is wrong as well:
People of "non-western" descent are labeled "allochtoon", not only by the white society, but also by law.

Foreigners from western countries are labeled allochtoon as well, we just call it western allochtoon and non-western allochtoon.
 
a word of advice, your point will be taken more seriously if you can defend your point without trying to point out something bad elsewhere.

i can't go around doing racist things just because someone else is doing it. why do you continue to try to draw attention away from the thread topic by bringing up what someone else is doing?
 
a word of advice, your point will be taken more seriously if you can defend your point without trying to point out something bad elsewhere.

i can't go around doing racist things just because someone else is doing it. why do you continue to try to draw attention away from the thread topic by bringing up what someone else is doing?
Have to agree with you here, I am derailing a bit too much by blaming others for their behaviour.
But I already defended my point a couple of times. I said it's a tradition and you shouldn't live in a country if you get offended by their traditions. And you certainly shouldn't start to try and change them.

And okay let's assume that black petes are really blacks from Africa for example.
So what? they are his servants not his slaves.
People should just get over it and not think too much about it.
No one over here ever has seen them as his slaves, that is until this guy started.

Well at least it must be a peaceful world if this is/was such a problem for the UN.
 
You seem to keep harping on what the UN has to say about the matter...What about that black girlfriend of yours...what's her thoughts on this whole thing?
 
You seem to keep harping on what the UN has to say about the matter...What about that black girlfriend of yours...what's her thoughts on this whole thing?
Yes I do keep harping about the UN. It's not their business but they have too much power that if they would have decided that it is too racist then that would just be the end of it.

Her opinion is the same as mine. She is not even a bit offended by it. As a matter of fact, she was just asking me yesterday to go see the arrival of Sinterklaas with her daughter in Amsterdam.
 
So she likes minstrel shows?
 
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