Blue/Black Aro discussion

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give me a year or two and mine should be big enough and I'll take some pics :)
 
Bderick67;4099990; said:
Yeah right, sorry I have a little more respect for my fish then to feed your feeble little mind. If there is a "black version" then someone has it. Likely they are keeping it in a tank and can take a picture of this so called variant
...net a 24" arowana :duh: :nilly: :screwy:

Thanks for knowing you're all talk and contribute nothing substantial to back up your claim. Like EZ said the "black version" hasn't been imported in over 15 years so it's pretty obvious then on one has it to take a picture, inside or outside the tank.
 
Scorponok;4100467; said:
Thanks for knowing you're all talk and contribute nothing substantial to back up your claim. Like EZ said the "black version" hasn't been imported in over 15 years so it's pretty obvious then on one has it to take a picture, inside or outside the tank.


I dont get what you're saying is nobody has got a black aro for 15 years?

....Fact is it doesnt matter if its black or blue just like bderick said its Osteoglossum ferreirai either way.
 
longv;4100809;4100809 said:
heres a 16in black aro thats pretty black to me, http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324414&highlight=black+arowana no way its over 15 years old if the so called black version hasnt been imported in that long

heres another thats dark in one pic and light colored in another http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322075&highlight=black+arowana
searching for "black" aro isnt gonna prove anything. people use the term blue/black interchangeably, and most think its the same thing
 
juneblood3;4100855;4100855 said:
I dont get what you're saying is nobody has got a black aro for 15 years?

....Fact is it doesnt matter if its black or blue just like bderick said its Osteoglossum ferreirai either way.
have you read anything in this thread? for the 50th time, nobody is arguing that it's a different species. the seller is claiming that this is a different color variant of Osteoglossum ferreirai, that comes from a different location.
 
I have to agree that its really just a marketing thing. jcardona you're not wrong in saying that fish of the same species may have subtle differences in appearance, but this is really just splitting hairs, its not like there are two distinct populations from different rivers as there are with the cichlids you refer to. There is virtually no proof of what the seller is claiming, to compare apples with apples you need to see fish of the same size from both locations in the same tank under the same lighting. The difference is so slight, and for all we know the variation might occur within all populations of O. ferrari. It certainly isn't unheard of for there to be variations in colour within a batch of fry from the same parents. Hell even my sister and I have slightly different skin colours and we're both from the same caucasian parents!

Rather than make up some BS name for them, why not sell them as "Osteoglossum ferrari Rio _______, Venezuela"? Or if he really has valid cause to think they are a different species call them "Osteoglossum Sp. Rio _______, Venezuela", or "Osteoglossum cf. ferrari Rio _______, Venezuela". I guess the seller is just clueless about Latin nomenclature.

People using common names like they are actually meaningful make me laugh......
 
David R;4100924;4100924 said:
I have to agree that its really just a marketing thing. jcardona you're not wrong in saying that fish of the same species may have subtle differences in appearance, but this is really just splitting hairs, its not like there are two distinct populations from different rivers as there are with the cichlids you refer to. There is virtually no proof of what the seller is claiming, to compare apples with apples you need to see fish of the same size from both locations in the same tank under the same lighting. The difference is so slight, and for all we know the variation might occur within all populations of O. ferrari. It certainly isn't unheard of for there to be variations in colour within a batch of fry from the same parents. Hell even my sister and I have slightly different skin colours and we're both from the same caucasian parents!

Rather than make up some BS name for them, why not sell them as "Osteoglossum ferrari Rio ____________, Venezuela"?
People using common names like they are actually meaningful make me laugh......
yeah, and it may very well be marketing. but they may also turn out to be a different color variant. only way to know is to take the gamble :) much like i did when i paid a premium for booger size cichla orinocensis from rio negro brazil.

only way to know for sure is to get some and grow them out. but im not interested in blue or blacks, so i wont be getting any!
 
jcardona1;4100932; said:
but they may also turn out to be a different color variant.

The thing is, what determines a different colour variety? People who breed and sell fish love to make up different names for things to make them more marketable and saleable, and will try to pick up on all the different colour varieties they can find. But from a scientific point of view they're all the same fish unless described as a different subspecies.

The fact that the seller tried to say that "normal" black aros are a colour variant shows how utterly clueless he is. If I had more time I'd track down the taxonomic descriptions for O. ferrari and O. bichirrosum and ask him to read them and back up his claim with fact, however I have a life (and work!) so can't spend hours trying to rid the internet of idiots....
 
jcardona1;4100871; said:
have you read anything in this thread? for the 50th time, nobody is arguing that it's a different species. the seller is claiming that this is a different color variant of Osteoglossum ferreirai, that comes from a different location.


read the whole thread plenty of times and i mainly posted on what scorponok said....i was just adding that it doesnt matter and that it all turns out to be the same fish for the same price if taken care of properly depending on the location it is being sold....the seller is trying to make his money.
 
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