FBI Data Again Shows More Guns = Less Crime

[jcardona1]

Thats awsome, who would of ever thought that the increase in guns sales could drop the crime of arsen over 10%

Let's here it for guns

guess somebody forgot to put their thinking cap on today. where in the OP did it mention anything about a decrease in arson? using my reading skills i see that he mentions a decrease in murder of 7.2%, which agrees to the percentage published by the FBI. see, that wasnt too hard was it?

 

[Bderick67]

Without all the information you can draw the same conclusion for both crimes. All crime is down accross the board, did you see that with your simple reading skills?

Remember more guns = less crime?

Where in the FBI's report is the info regarding gun sales? Has there been an actual increase in people owning guns or has it just been the same people buying more guns? If info shows no increase in gun owners then as I said before it's a crock of sh...

 

[jcardona1]

Without all the information you can draw the same conclusion for both crimes. All crime is down accross the board, did you see that with your simple reading skills?

Remember more guns = less crime?

Where in the FBI's report is the info regarding gun sales? Has there been an actual increase in people owning guns or has it just been the same people buying more guns? If info shows no increase in gun owners then as I said before it's a crock of sh...

using common sense goes a long way too, along with reading skills. just take a look at the crimes described. which of these most often involves the use of a gun? violent crime? forcible rape? assault? property crime? motor vehicle theft? arson? MURDER? oh yeah, maybe that one!!! ding-ding-ding!

but anywho, i dont care about stats really. i believe what i believe and thats that. stats can be used in many ways to support any argument, no matter how crazy. you can have all the stats you want to support or argue against gun ownership.

all that really matters is that the 2nd amendment still exists and will continue to do so. until then, all this arguing is pointless.

 

[Bderick67]

Ok so answer this why is it that all crime rates have dropped? Maybe a little more to it the just guns sales?

As I've said before you can post a certain amount of stats and make them say whatever you want.

So far hear we have;

Increase in MFK membership = less crime

and

Increase in gun sales = drop in arson

and

More guns = less crime


Not a one of these statements above holds any merit whatsoever.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

except more guns = less crime. again its a fact. common sence. gun laws only affect those of us that follow the laws. outlaw the guns and only the criminals will have them.
I know multiple people that have guns that were never registerd here in the US. If the gov came around and collected all guns they would still have them. thus those of us that follwed the law wouldnt be armed and they with the non registerd guns would.
And gettin non registerd firearms isnt that hard. Iv been offered them before.
and for the final time, that would mean that i had a gun. i was offerd handguns before 21(still not, lol) so the gun law would only affect me if i listend and didnt buy the unregisterd handgun (which i didnt) if i didnt listen, i would be breaking the law and would own a handgun, illegaly
suprise!! the handgun wouldnt bother me!! no one would know i had it

 

[Bderick67]

except more guns = less crime. again its a fact.

There still have yet to be facts posted in this thread to prove this.

Otherwise by going on what's be posted, all three idiotic statements are factual.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

plz read the rest of the post

 

[Bderick67]

plz read the rest of the post

The rest of the most has nothing to do with my point. Regarding the posting of incomplete or mis information to give false support to whatever it is that you would need it for.

 

[phillydog1958]

But the point is you ARE NOT making a point! You have no proof to refute anything!

It is oh so easy to say this or that is a crock or BS without any proof!

You would make a great lawyer! NOT!!
"....but, your honor, I call BS, isn't that good enough to declare my client not guilty?"

You would make a good History teacher! NOT! As you don't know the past history of the U.S., let alone what has happened in other countries when the citizens guns are taken away! Check it out!

"I fail to see......" Oh so true!! Nailed it!!

Freedom is not free!! Without people standing up to people who would love to kill the 2nd Amendment it will be watered down and our right to bear arms taken away. It is not about paranoia, but about protecting the freedoms one already has!

Hmmmm . . . What specific incident in US history are you referring to? Probably the Revolutionary War . . . In a odd way, I kind of agree with you . . . I can think of a few situations where if guns were used by the weaker and disadvantaged, things would be much different. One that comes to mind, is the first European explorers and how they came with guns and ammo and took what we now refer to as the USA. If the natives had guns, things might be different. They had spears, hatchets and bows and arrows. Andrew Jackson, later called this "Manifest Destiny . . ."

 

[Thalan]

You wanted and others want to cite an example of where people can't defend themselves or "if just one person had a gun" would have prevented the massacre. Well I presented you with an example of where people could defend themselves with guns, end result same with alot of death. More guns help there?

Uh sorry but almost no one on base is armed. There are guards at the entrance yes but almost everywhere else you cant carry a firearm unless you have a really good reason and check one out from the armory. All of the victims involved in that shooting were unarmed. Go back and watch news reports from that day, the reporters asked about it and the personnel being interviewed all confirmed that people were not allowed to be armed in that area.
Say all you want but I challenge you to find one instance where an increase in gun sale/availability had a corresponding increase in crime. You may not believe that they prevent it but surely you can see they dont help it much.