Fisherman Arrested For Shooting Sea Lion In The Head

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krzr3000;3641898;3641898 said:
This is talking of the past..but this wouldn't be the case if human development didn't mess up the natural balance. The easy solution is to cull the heard through organized hunt. Well its a pathetic lazy idea since its only going to get worse as development expands. Like around here in suburbia...small tracts of land are kept as open space between housing developments. Apparently some people think the deer will stay in these confined areas. Then they get hit by cars, eat all the vegetation, and its just a fustercluck after that isn't it? All avoidable if better planned out, but that takes time and money and who cares about the environment anyways?
We all know that the root cause is man's never ending expansion of our "ways of life". Wildlife management is and always will be the correct answer to keeping the "balance" of overabundant wildlife. Unlike the ocean, Sea lions have no known natural predators to keep the population down (150 miles up river from the pacific) so I guess it is up to the evil human to take that role.....
 
fallin49er;3640887; said:
The sea lion does not discriminate between endangered, wild, or hatchery raised fish..that is the problem around here...they are a pest. I don't condone random killing of these creatures by pissed off fisherman, however, they need do need to be "managed". They are not as sweet and harmless as they appear...


Humans need to be "Managed" then too.
 
It amazes me how we change and alter the world around us affecting wildlife migrations and their habitat then when the animals find either an easy meal or adapt and come into our area or disrupt our recreational time they are the pest.did anyone ever stop to ask why these sea lions moved up river. Or when they built the damn in the long run how will this affect the wildlife?will it change what the do naturally? Will it causes an abundance of fish and prey thus attracting predators?all of these sea lions as well as some other animals that are being called pests because they are adapting to the changes and taking advantage of the way MAN has changed the landscape.come on that's not fair at all.we create these changes they problems are caused by man's progress.
 
fallin49er;3641920; said:
We all know that the root cause is man's never ending expansion of our "ways of life". Wildlife management is and always will be the correct answer to keeping the "balance" of overabundant wildlife. Unlike the ocean, Sea lions have no known natural predators to keep the population down (150 miles up river from the pacific) so I guess it is up to the evil human to take that role.....

That simplistic thought is useless. Preventive maintenance works for everything. Think ahead let go of old school thoughts of unregulated development. Its only gonna get worse...
 
VLDesign;3641964; said:
Humans need to be "Managed" then too.


I agree 100%!! Any of yall for this "Management" want to give a family member up for the first "Manager"? :eek:
 
krzr3000;3642054;3642054 said:
That simplistic thought is useless. Preventive maintenance works for everything. Think ahead let go of old school thoughts of unregulated development. Its only gonna get worse...
You should take your first sentence to heart friend. I am not sure what country you live in, but here in the USA and especially the areas I am specifically talking about, there is no such thing as "unregulated development"......do your research on the Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area before you go babbling about things you have zero knowledge about...
 
fallin49er;3640887; said:
The sea lion does not discriminate between endangered, wild, or hatchery raised fish..that is the problem around here...they are a pest. I don't condone random killing of these creatures by pissed off fisherman, however, they need do need to be "managed". They are not as sweet and harmless as they appear...

They're part of the food chain- they eat the fish doesnt matter what its status is.... and in return the bigger animals eat the sea lions, the even the endangered ones so I don't see what you mean by "managed" when they're already being managed in the cycle of life without human intervention? to take a life is to give life in return eventually- the sea takes care of its own.

we humans are supposed to be the smarter ones- to let an animal become a "pest" means we're somehow missing the solution on how to beat them in their own game when it comes to fishing. We humans are the cause of why the sea is starting to get sick itself- we're overfishing so in turn the animals have to compete more harder for the food and when they see the fish on the line they see it as an injured fish and easy taking.. thats what they naturally do in the wild they catch the slowest fish.

look at entire different animal- some species of the wolf it has been hunted to extinction because it was considered a pest. Now they're gone forever because simply they were there so they were a pest.

are they the pests or are we, humans, the pest?
 
With the way some of you animal lovers are talking, you'd think you want humans to take the place of the sea lions. Some of you are flat out crazy.

It sucks that human expansion has come to the point of encrouching upon sea lion's, but it's not natural for them to be coming into port for an easy meal, either.

In the end people need to do what is going to ensure our best interests - not get all wishy washy over a few animals getting shot at.
 
fallin49er;3640792; said:
From what I have witnessed with my own eyes..they slaughter them...They will get a hold of one, take one bite out of it and that's it...
I suppose bears, gulls, salmon sharks, eagles, king salmon, halibut etc etc slaughter salmon too?

Tell me fallin49er, how often does the species of sea lion that you're talking about reproduce? What is the litter size? What is the mortality rate for each age class of seal? When do they become sexually mature and when do they reach their peak reproductive age? How long do they live? In the area you're talking about, how many populations are in the area intermingling, and by that I mean how many are coming into the population and how many are leaving it?

I daresay you aren't equipped to answer these questions but you certainly seem like you believe you are an authority on the subject of the management of sea lions. Maybe try to understand a bit more about wildlife management before you pretend to understand what you see out there. Wildlife management is a science, your arguement is nothing more than biased commentary.
 
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