H1N1 flu shots for our kids + the regular flu shot

[rmorse]

lol, sure ANY disease can be pandemic. but the point is. why isnt the seasonal flu consider an pandemic and a major threat? show me where it says SEASONAL FLU is an pandemic flu? because pandemics RARELY happens maybe 3 times in the last 100 years. i dont think you still have an idea what pandemic means. you need to do further research bro.

here read this maybe this will give you an idea of the seasonal flu and a PANDEMIC flu:

http://aids.about.com/od/technicalquestions/f/pandemic.htm

let me know when you can find proof that a seasonal flu is an pandemic threat.

........Did you not even read what I posted?

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

y would they?

 

[sushiray]

update: so far my kids have no adverse effect from taking either vaccines (flu mist or H1N1 shots), still have to get their 2nd dose in couple of weeks.

my son does have a tough cough to get rid of. he passed it to my wife (or my wife just was not being smart by still kissing him so she got it bad). lucky for us (myself, daughter, grandparents) have caught this coughing virus.

 

[L021]

IMO, If you're asthmatic, very young, older, other immune system deficiency, then the flu shot is a good idea. Otherwise, it's unnecessary, other people could use it even if they are taking a risk. I have no intention, being 14 and having a most healthy immune system (I only get sick about twice a year)

 

[Jgray152]

Thimerosal is a mercury preservative that causes neurological disorders. You NEED to request the vaccine without Thimerosal. That's F-ed up to me. Just another way for the pharmaceutical companies to make more money. The H1N1 vaccine kills more people than the flu its self. I am not getting the shot. In MASS they were trying to pass a law that states you have no choice and if you don't you could get thrown in jail. That law basically tries to strip you have your constitutional rights. Which is what the government tries to do anyways.

 

[cassharper]

Where are all these ridiculous figures about 1 in 1,000 people dying from swine flu? Considering the swine flu most often is so mild that it isn't reported, the best that there can be are estimates. It's estimated there have been over 22 million cases. How many people have died in the US? Less than 4,000.

Now I'm not mathematician, but that looks more like 1 in every 5500 people. That's along the lines of .02% THAT'S LESS THAN NORMAL STRAINS OF THE FREAKIN' FLU.

 

[cassharper]

Thimerosal is a mercury preservative that causes neurological disorders. You NEED to request the vaccine without Thimerosal. That's F-ed up to me. Just another way for the pharmaceutical companies to make more money. The H1N1 vaccine kills more people than the flu its self. I am not getting the shot. In MASS they were trying to pass a law that states you have no choice and if you don't you could get thrown in jail. That law basically tries to strip you have your constitutional rights. Which is what the government tries to do anyways.

Thimerosol is a methymercurial compound, meaning it has a half-life in the body that is measured in hours. Most children's metabolism is so high that there is absolutely no trace in the time it would take to cause bodily harm. The fuss you (and 10 million other conspiracy theorists) are making is about ethyl mercury, a compound that has a considerably longer half-life. Ethylmercury can accumulate in the body of a long amount of time and cause considerable nervous system damage.

 

[Johnnybravo60025]

According to this article, .02% of children who got Swine Flu died of it. I believe this is where cassharper got the statistics from...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_med_swine_flu

 

[sushiray]

hey! to each their own I say. if one feels uncomfortable in taking the H1N1 vaccine we can not hold it against them. same goes for the reg. flu.

the H1N1 stats are what they are - small in comparison vs. the reg. flu.

but I sure hate to be the family that becomes a statistic because by some slim chance if we didn't opt to have our kids take it (mind you the govt/media has made it a point to highlight the higher risk for younger kids for this strain) they get it, have ensuing complications & then suffer tragedy.

again, I will repeat our experience earlier this yr with H1N1 with our daughter. healthy as can be, but our school district was basically decimated by the bug. BUT - fortunately no tragedies were reported. when our daughter contracted it she suffered thru 3 str8 days & nites of hi-grade fever (hi of 105 - very critical levels). no vaccine was available & yes she survived w/o tragedy striking our family. she was prescribed tamiflu - which helped mitigate the effects of the H1N1 flu bug.

BUT - as parents of a precious child, we were scared "sh1t" less - we both took off from work, we both were so scared, we both were petrified, since we could do nothing. a harrowing experience, unlike the reg. flu experience which we all had contracted in the past.

had we had the vaccine we never will know if it would have helped during this episode.

we opted to take it as we could not bare to undergo a similar bout of contracting this potentially devastating bug.

so please don't condemn us or those who do decide to take it. great that you & others who opt to not take it have not become statistics & suffer tragedies, but don't insult (or scoff or laugh at) those families who are now part of the statistics of having suffered tragedies with their own children (& mind you, they did not have a choice, they didn't have access to the vaccines even if they wanted it - it wasn't available only till recently).

I am glad no one on this forum has suffered for the worst or know anyone who might have - yes can be mild, yes can be overstated/overblown out of proportion. But we chose not to take that chance.

so everyone, we hope you all stay healthy or at least if you are lucky to get the flu, whether the reg. or H1N1, that is it a mild case for you.

just a Q? - does anyone know of anyone who contracted the H1N1 or the reg. flu bug & suffered tragic consequences? probably none, so the stats for our forum is 0%. how comforting one can take from this...

 

[Hawaiianfishkee]

Keep your kids away from hand sanitizers. They kill the germs before your immune system can. Our bodies are made to fight off viruses and bacterias, but if we are too obsessively clean our bodies can't perform the job it was ment for. If there's nothing for our bodies to be immune to, then our immune system will be shot.

I don't know about the H1N1 vaccine, but I do know something about the common flu shot. They say it's one in a million, but who knows how they got that statistic. Check it out, very sad. YouTube- "cheerleader gets a flu shot"