How many different foods are you feeding?

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All that is interesting I guess but it actually shouldn't be that complicated... if NLS is the best quality pellet sold in the U.S., which I strongly believe it is, I shouldn't have to feed my carnivorous jaguar cichlid the exact same thing as an herbivorous african cichlid. Bottom line, NLS should have a food that's "perfect" for herbivores, omnivores, and carnivores... having so many different pellets with almost the exact same ingredient list seems lazy on the part of NLS. Not arguing the quality, just the lack of variety...

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if NLS is the best quality pellet sold in the U.S., which I strongly believe it is, I shouldn't have to feed my carnivorous jaguar cichlid the exact same thing as an herbivorous african cichlid.
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And you don't. NLS has numerous formulas, and they certainly aren't all exatly the same. Check out the 10mm Mega Fish formula, it has far higher protein/fat levels comared to the 1mm Cichlid formula. If 10 mm is too big for your fish, improvise, and break them into smaller pieces.

Their main recipe for their various formulas has nothing to do with being lazy, and everything to do with taking a more realistic approach to feeding fish in captivity. The key word being captivity. Once you remove a fish from the wild everything changes. If you feed a nutritionally balanced food you can feed it to most species with relative success, no matter how some ichthyologist decided to classify their feeding habits in the wild. The only real differerence between feeding the various groups of fish for myself is how often, and how much I would feed. As an example, in captivity I would typically feed an algae grazer 3-4 times a day, in smaller amounts. An adult predatory carnivore would get fed at the most once a day, skipping days, and in larger amounts. For omnivores whatever, as they are pretty flexible in how & when one feeds them.

And if anyone really wants to add more aquatic plant matter to your fishes diet, to more closely mimic their diet in the wild, then New Life has also recently produced a pellet to fit that bill.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?564494-What-should-I-feed-my-tropheus

They have also come out with a line of gel foods. There is plenty of "variety" within the New Life line of foods, if that's what your looking for.
 
I apologize for the bad words about NLS, now I see why food threads always get shut down :banghead:... they do actually have a variety of foods, but a lot of them are gimmicks and have extremely similar ingredient lists. Didn't know they just released a pellet with more plant matter, but then it's not on their website either (at least not that I could find). If that's actually true then that's good, been waiting for something like that. Also waiting on something with a little higher "quality" protein content that's not 10mm, not gonna sit there and cut my pellets up every time I go to feed. Not sure what the protein content of that food is either, I would guess an extra 2% with the same ingredients. You guys can argue the quality of the protein all u want, but I guarantee you that a managuense or dovii gets plenty more protein, regardless of quality, than any herbivore. RD kind of proved my point when he said that the only real difference in his feedings is how often and how much he feeds to carnivores or herbivores.... when u can feed the EXACT same formula, let's say NLS large fish formula, to any kind of fish, u know that some of those fish aren't getting what they need. Doesn't take a ton of research or studies to figure that out... and just so u guys can sleep tonight, I wanna let u guys know that I will be continuing to feed my jag NLS large fish formula/thera+a as the staple part of his diet :D


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The principle behind NLS was this, give all fish what they need, some fish (such as herbivores) will get more (protein) than they require so you can feed them less food, which will equate to less overall nutrients across the board. That, and most fish will simply break down & and excrete excess amino acids. (protein)

In other words, ALL of the fish are getting what they need, some are simply getting more than they might require. This is exactly why one can feed less of a nutrient dense feed, no matter the brand.

The 10 mm formula has a minimum of 42% protein, and a minimum of 6% fat. Which means the typical numbers would be approx 45%, and 8%. If breaking up a few pellets a day for a jag is a big issue, then I can't help with that. lol

BTW many managuense & dovii have been raised on a diet of NLS.


I was just trying to help you out bro, feel free to feed your fish what you want.
 
RD - Do you know where to find the new Veggie ingredient list and protein percentage? Or do we have to wait until it's out. I am hoping it has a lower protein content than their current one.
 
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?564494-What-should-I-feed-my-tropheus

I've now posted that link, twice. From that link ....

New Life Spectrum's AlgaeMAX is a diet for Herbivores (Tangs, Tropheus, etc) that is made of 9 different types of algae, seaweed, and kelp. This food was designed to be a complete diet for all herbivores. AlgaeMAX takes advantage of a new pellet forming process that lets New Life include more algae and seaweed, while keeping a greater amount of secondary ingredients like Whole Atlantic Krill, Vitamins, and Trace Elements. The nine main ingredients are:

•Chlorella Algae
•Red Seaweed
•Kelp
•Chondrus crispus
•Ulva Seaweed
•Wakame Seaweed
•Spirulina
•Spinosum Seaweed
•Eucheuma cottonii

Available mid December 2013, this Herbivore diet is set to be the best and only food like it on the market! We use it in our store and even our finicky Tangs LOVE this stuff!!
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http://www.aquaticasuperstore.com/superstore/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=533

and a review that was also posted in that thread, which included a sneak preview of their new algae based gel as well.

http://blog.aquanerd.com/2013/11/new-life-spectrum-algaemax-and-algaegel-worth-the-wait.html


For any additional info you would need to contact the manufacturer directly. Here's the email to the vice pres. ian@nlsfishfood.com


HTH
 
I've read both of those before, but it didn't list it what I was looking for. Thanks though. I'll wait until someone local brings it in to check it out.
 
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